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Experts call Austin plane crash a 'cathartic outburst,' not terrorism
The Fort Worth Star Telegram ^ | 2/20/2010 | TIM MADIGAN

Posted on 02/21/2010 10:09:55 AM PST by LA Woman3

Joseph Stack's flight into the side of an Austin office building Thursday was a crime of vengeance by a man clearly angry at the Internal Revenue Service. But should it be called terrorism?

Judging from the rambling manifesto he left online, academics and terrorism experts said Friday that they doubt that Stack's attack was more than a "cathartic outburst of violence." The plane crash echoed other attacks over the years by lone criminals with a violent anti-government bent, which one expert called a distinctly American phenomenon.

To be an act of terrorism, "there has to be some political motive and it has to send a broader message that seeks some policy change," Georgetown University professor Bruce Hoffman said. "From what I've heard, that doesn't appear to be the case. It appears he was very mad at the [IRS] and this was a cathartic outburst of violence. His motivation was the key."

Hoffman contrasted Stack's attack on an office building housing IRS employees with the rampage at Fort Hood in November. Army Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan has been charged with 13 counts of murder in those shootings.

"Hasan went to a military base, specifically to an area where people were being processed for overseas assignments, and just wanted to attack soldiers," Hoffman said. "That seemed to be sending a political message and was meant to have wider repercussions.

(Excerpt) Read more at star-telegram.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: austin; counterterrorism; irs; josephstack; terrorism

1 posted on 02/21/2010 10:09:55 AM PST by LA Woman3
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To: LA Woman3

It is only Muslims that are trying to reclassify this event as terrorism

Feeling lonely I guess.


2 posted on 02/21/2010 10:11:02 AM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: All

War on cathartic outbursts?


3 posted on 02/21/2010 10:11:12 AM PST by LA Woman3
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To: LA Woman3
Seems to me that Stack was in the same sort of vein as McVeigh. Both held a grudge against the government and took steps to strike back.
4 posted on 02/21/2010 10:12:01 AM PST by highlander_UW (Obama has lost or not saved over 4 million jobs!)
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To: highlander_UW
Seems to me that Stack was in the same sort of vein as McVeigh. Both held a grudge against the government and took steps to strike back.

Of course, Joe Stack was a terrorist, just like Tim McVey, the Ft. Hood Shooter, the DC Sniper and the 9/11 hijackers.

5 posted on 02/21/2010 10:16:13 AM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: LA Woman3

They’d probably be calling him a terrorist if he was “right wing.” But since he was a deranged leftist (contrary to lies that went out yesterday from the left wing press), they will make as little of it as they can.

But, no, he’s certainly not a terrorist in the sense that Muslims or Communist fanatics are terrorists. His politics helped to derange him, but it was not primarily a political act.


6 posted on 02/21/2010 10:30:20 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: LA Woman3

Ok, now that they left has seen that their efforts to classify this guy as a right wing nut job has failed, due mainly to the evidence left by the perp that he was a left wing nut job, suddenly it is no longer domestic terrorism(despite what the guy wrote in his lunatic ramblings)but just simply a guy getting even with the IRS. Right, got it/Sar.


7 posted on 02/21/2010 10:33:31 AM PST by calex59
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To: LA Woman3
RE: SPLC's Poltok: "At the end of the day, this attack may well have been a reflection of what I think is an undeniable boom on the radical right over the last year."

If you play that backwards here's what Mr. Poltok and SPLC are saying: "We sure hope to tag the radical right with this! We'll collect tens of millions of dollars scaring people! This is best chance since 1995! Hot Damn!"

I'd like to try my hand in the lucrative scare industry..

I do not know Wesley Snipes' politics but he's black, he's Hollywood so.. I guess he's a liberal.

Given his problems with the IRS his feelings about the deadly attack was, "What's new?" I believe that is a quote.

Ergo Stack represents the feeeeelings of the liberal victims' industry, the liberal civil rights industry, and the liberal Hollywood crowd.

It's clear that the left liberals/progressives approve of the attack.

Why? Because (at least) one of them appears to sympathize with Stack's despicable actions.

Send your money to . . . .

8 posted on 02/21/2010 10:33:46 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: LA Woman3
which one expert called a distinctly American phenomenon

Sounds like this expert believes that no one living outside of the USA has made an anti-government attack in his/her own country. Can someone discredit the expert please?
9 posted on 02/21/2010 10:35:31 AM PST by tfbcowinafog
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To: LA Woman3

I just hope that the Federal Government syops its campaign of tax discrimination against computer programmers before we run out of airplanes. Many people aren’t even aware of the Federal “programmer pogrom”!


10 posted on 02/21/2010 10:35:38 AM PST by 2harddrive
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To: 2harddrive

STOPS, I meant to type.


11 posted on 02/21/2010 10:37:47 AM PST by 2harddrive
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To: trumandogz; xzins; blue-duncan
Of course, Joe Stack was a terrorist, just like Tim McVey, the Ft. Hood Shooter, the DC Sniper and the 9/11 hijackers.

You are wrong. Stack acted alone out of his own selfish interests. He was not part of any kind of movement and his sole motive was revenge against people he thought wronged him (personally).

A terrorist is someone with a political purpose which he believes will be advanced by killing innocent people and inflicting terror on the people he does not kill.

Stack was no different than some guy who gets fired and then goes back to the office and kills his boss and a few other people before killing himself.

Unless you are willing to call every instance of some guy going postal "terrorism" then Stack was NOT a terrorist. He was just some idiot who snapped and went postal.

IMO people demean the term "terrorist" when they apply it to people who are just crazy.

12 posted on 02/21/2010 10:40:58 AM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: LA Woman3

Cathartic outburst? Does this mean Stack finally got it all out of his system, and we can rest assured he will never try that again?


13 posted on 02/21/2010 10:48:18 AM PST by csmusaret (Sarah Palin thinks everyday in America is the 4th of July. Obama thinks it is April 15th.)
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To: LA Woman3

He was angry at the IRS, and flew his plane into an IRS buiding. A little different than blowing up a pizza joint in Israel because Americans are in Saudi Arabia.


14 posted on 02/21/2010 11:01:12 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: BunnySlippers; JustPiper
>>> "It is only Muslims that are trying to reclassify this event as terrorism" <<<<

Yeah, isn't CAIR absolutely pathetic??

15 posted on 02/21/2010 11:03:52 AM PST by hennie pennie
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To: LA Woman3

It’s good to cathart.


16 posted on 02/21/2010 2:18:08 PM PST by Daniel II (I'm Jim Thompson, this is my brother Jimmy, and this is my other brother Jimmy)
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To: csmusaret
Does this mean Stack finally got it all out of his system, and we can rest assured he will never try that again?

You forgot your sarcasm tag.

Considering Stack's remains assumed room temperature (after being incinerated by burning aviation fuel), it is safe to say that he won't be repeating this action (at least not in this life.)

Whether or not he "got it out of his system" or not is unanswerable, as he is not around to comment on his satisfaction about what he did.

Certainly a whole lot of people in those Austin buildings (and those who saw the new coverage of the aftermath) felt terrorized, regardless of his intentions. They certainly didn't have a cathartic experience.

17 posted on 02/21/2010 11:02:51 PM PST by anymouse (God didn't write this sitcom we call life, he's just the critic.)
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To: LA Woman3

"The plan is to build him up. Give him all the confidence we can.
Striker, have you ever flown a multi-engine plane before?"
"No. Never."
"S***! It's a g-ddamn waste of time! There's no way he can land this plane!"

18 posted on 02/21/2010 11:16:30 PM PST by anymouse (God didn't write this sitcom we call life, he's just the critic.)
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