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To: DesertRenegade

You’re either for traditional family values or you are not.

The GOP needs to be 100% clear on this.


4 posted on 02/19/2010 7:39:57 PM PST by Sparky1776
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To: Sparky1776

What the hell is happening to Conservatism when we are now expected to just embrace and welcome those who believe that it’s normal for men to worship the excremental organ of other males? Hello? We are officially in lala land now. I can’t imagine Ronald Reagan embracing such a degenerate lifestyle.


11 posted on 02/19/2010 7:44:03 PM PST by DesertRenegade
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To: Sparky1776
You’re either for traditional family values or you are not.

That's true and I am but many Republicans and Tea Party types are there just for low taxes. They don't see anything else as being important, and certainly not lifestyle choices (depraved as these may be). These are also the type who say don't let an issue like abortion get in the way of electing our candidate (Scott Brown type). Basically I steer clear of any group unless pro-life and traditional family values are at the top of the signboard.

49 posted on 02/19/2010 8:03:38 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: Sparky1776

Clear? When the rubber must meet the road, the GOP is as clear as the mud in a Louisiana swamp. Oh, they talk a good game... but, in the end, they act no different than the Democrats. Somewhere in Washington DC there must exist a vast graveyard of detached spines... Since I have yet to encounter a sitting Republican who is still in possession of his, and the Democrats never had one to begin with... except when it comes to screwing the American people... then they are indefatigable juggernauts... while the Republicans practice their knitting.

The GOP is infested by a cabal of political whores, whom stand for nothing but themselves... and would sell the store if not for a few lone conservative voices crying in the wilderness. A conservative platform of ideas? Please, spare me that drivel. The GOP admits into its ranks every idea except the conservative brand. The only time their ears unclog is after they loose an election, but unfortunately the lucidity is temporary.

So the GOP never goes home with the one who brought them to the dance. Instead, led by poltroons and effeminate intellectual jerk-offs, it plays political football in the best tradition of Lucy Van Pelt and Charlie Brown. That is why over the past 20 years their accomplishments for the cause of conservatism would not fill a pail... and we conservatives end up flat on our backs. That is why we still have abortion on demand, homosexual marriage, a collapsed industrial base, a broken financial system, a fascist-inclined authoritarian oligarchy for government, and a national debt that, if its worthless fiat currency were laid end to end, would reach the Moon. In the political arena, when push comes to shove, the Republicans have fallen and they can’t get “it” up.

Oh yes, we brag about NJ and VA and... OMG! Massachusetts! However, have any here actually examined the “rest” of Scott Brown’s positions? Hardly conservative, but unmistakeably the unabashed equivocating ambiguities of a RINO. Or do any here delude themselves to think Massachusetts is suddenly in the conservative corner? So while most are cheering because Senator Brown will cast a vote against Obamacare, just what will these same individuals do once their adopted Massachusetts son starts casting votes in the same vein as John McCain?

More pointedly towards John McCain’s present electoral contest, and since I am in a mood to raise hackles, will some prescient individual please explain why it must be that Sarah Palin is supporting the re-election of this treacherous RINO jackass? What was that I stated a few rants ago about “principle”? I have to wonder whether all is completely lost, when even “Sarahcuda” sings the song of sell-out.

Most of those who call themselves Republicans are no better than the tyrannical socialists whom they conveniently, in the end, never fail to play footsie. That unfortunate reality explains why, that no matter which political party holds majority power, the “progressive” agenda never looses an inch of ground, while the conservatives barely tread water, if not outright sink beneath the waves of socialism that pound this republic without a moment’s pause. It’s all one grand circle jerk... and we are the jerks for allowing these GOP frauds to continue their shenanigans, without stringing a few up from the light poles just to remind them of who it is they serve.

No. America has not statesmen, but rather impotent poltroons, whom will just as quickly thrust a wet finger into the air so to test the political trade winds as would ever any of their contemporaries across the ideological aisle. To a progressive, there is no “wet dream” like that of co-opting ... er-uhm ... “cooperating” with their opponents Uphold the truth? Hell, boy... that’s idealistic; that’s not expedient!

Many in the GOP leadership, and in particular that two-faced clueless coward, Michael Steele, would shank their grandmothers, if they thought the betrayal would gain them some electoral ground with those who are in fact the worst enemies of individual liberty. After all... We simply MUST have “bi-partisanship!” Who would dare think to stand on principle... That’s so outdated!

How else do you explain tolerance for such RINO traitors the likes of McCain, Snowe, Collins, Specter, et al?

Now, come 2012, the GOP is going to once again push on conservatives that smiling phony Mitt Romney? That sideshow did not work the last time, but that result will not stop the schmucks in the GOP leadership from making another attempt at flying their worn-out lead zeppelin over the conservative base. Spin Crash and Burn... again.

An elephant is supposed to never forget... Unfortunately the GOP leadership never learns anything to begin with.


197 posted on 02/19/2010 9:20:20 PM PST by TCH (DON'T BE AN "O-HOLE"! ... DEMAND YOUR STATE ENACT ITS SOVEREIGNTY !)
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To: Sparky1776

You are right but the GOP likes to take both sides of every issue so that they can pretend that they are open to all views and have a big tent.

All they do is water down any principle that they might have had.


325 posted on 02/19/2010 10:43:27 PM PST by Badray
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To: Sparky1776

Agreed!!!!! Your either for or your not!!!


360 posted on 02/19/2010 11:46:10 PM PST by tallyhoe
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To: Sparky1776

Log Cabin members of the GOP probably won’t agree.

I do though.


403 posted on 02/20/2010 3:51:53 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Sparky1776

Maybe that is why some stayed away.


431 posted on 02/20/2010 5:44:24 AM PST by maxter (Ignorance is not bliss, it is devastating, and we are witnessing some of the fruits of it.)
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To: Sparky1776

How did there get to be so many homosexuals?


478 posted on 02/20/2010 7:02:14 AM PST by Big Horn (Rebuild the GOP to a conservative party)
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To: Sparky1776
Absolutely......(& if I keep posting I'll be reduced to sputtering, I'm so upset)
517 posted on 02/20/2010 8:01:44 AM PST by Guenevere (....)
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To: Sparky1776
You’re either for traditional family values or you are not.

So Dick Cheney is against traditional family values?
607 posted on 02/20/2010 10:54:55 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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To: Sparky1776
"The GOP needs to be 100% clear on this"

Would you have the GOP put that banner front and center...as a principal issue?

How about abortion? Front and center?

While I believe we should all vote our conscience, every time, I think some fight are better relegated to the future if they don't present an immediate threat.

I believe "gay rights" and abortion belong under the 10th Amendment and are not the purview of the Federal Government. However, the Feds have nationalized abortion under Roe and essentially codified the legalization position. That is NOT a fight that will be won over the next 2-4 years.

Currently the "gay rights" issues are being fought on the 10th Amendment stage (in the State Houses)...and I wonder why the GOP or conservatives would want to nationalize them? If anything the "gay rights" movement has a far better constitutional case than the abortionists did.

That, combined with that fact that many independents in the NE and West Coast are agnostic on these issues...but react negatively to "religious zeal", why stir that hornets nest when there's no upside, no opportunity to change the status quo?

I just don't get it...there is an opportunity over the next 2-4 years to place conservative principles in the ruling seats for a generation...the seats that APPOINT AND APPROVE JUDGES...and some would carry the banner of issues at the front of the column, issues which cannot be affected in the near term, which could reduce the chances for victory in the long term.

618 posted on 02/20/2010 11:03:28 AM PST by Mariner
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To: Sparky1776
You’re either for traditional family values or you are not.

The GOP needs to be 100% clear on this.

CPAC is not a gathering of Republicans.

705 posted on 02/20/2010 1:32:54 PM PST by TaxRelief (I am demoting "Global Warming" from 'theory' to 'deliberate falsehood'.)
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To: Sparky1776

Anyone who believes in the GOP to support traditional values anymore is just plain smoking crack. Both parties have been infested with progressives.

Until we eradicate progressives COMPLETELY we will never be a free society again. We can’t co-exist we need to destroy progressives economically, personally and financially.

That is the real clear calling for conservatives. Destroy progressives COMPLETELY and we get our country back.

After we get our country back we isolate any progressive leaning government elsewhere. If we want to do something for mankind we need to rid ourselves of this disease.


1,068 posted on 02/21/2010 6:39:21 PM PST by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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