Gee, that sounds familiar...
How'd that all work out again?
Posted on 02/19/2010 7:35:34 PM PST by DesertRenegade
Ryan Sorba, from the Young Americans for Freedom organization’s California chapter, was booed off the stage tonight at CPAC, for deriding CPAC’s choice to have GOProud attend CPAC, even going so far as to say he “condemns CPAC”. Not the sort of thing one would say when invited to speak at the biggest gathering of Conservatives who look to CPAC for guidance and networking.
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But those are lies. And that still does matter to the ignorant squishy moderate muddle that drive the electoral process. And for me, it's not a political strategy, I really don't HATE gay people. I've had to work with gay people, I had to live around gay people. I've had to minister to gay people. I felt sorry for them, I prayed for them, I didn't hate them.
And when I argue against allowing gay scout masters, because I know it is not out of animus, the argument can be that much more persuasive.
We are damned if we do, damned if we don’t so why bother to compromise our position on this issue?
I don't think we should compromise our position, and I apologize if it sounded like I did. I'm not talking about opposing the gay agenda. I'm certainly not speaking AGAINST Ryan's speech at CPAC, and I'm not defending CPACs sponsorship by GOProud (although I will defend the choice of speakers who decided to speak at CPAC).
When the GOP platform tries to conform to the latest special interest group or bends the platform in an attempt to garner a few thousand more votes, we all lose.
I agree with that as well, but I don't think the party has to personally condemn people who are homosexual in order to avoid "conforming the platform" to the gay agenda.
I just think the political party should focus on what impacts government, which means opposing the gay agenda. I don't think the political party should try to "save" homosexuals. That's our job as individuals to witness to the lost.
See my post #270. I definitely will go look for these but if it’s not in the index, I don’t know. It’s a long book to reread the whole thing.
I’m not a troll, Jim. Not a RINO, not a supporter/defender of the homosexual agenda. I want conservative victory, but I’ve seen the turn off that simply bringing up these issues can have on undecided voters.
I’ll guess I’ll take my own advice to pick my battles and take a hike from this thread.
What kind of stupidity is that opinion based on?
Smart move.
CPAC is dead!
They will have lost 100% of the Christian conservative base for this by the end of next week.
Over-reach.
But I see a mole whacking in your future.
I am military vet with 5 national defense ribbons. Gays are in the military, they have been there for years and the military knows it. They HATE, HATE HATE Straights, I can’t say that enough. I have even called congressmen on it to share my knowledge why gays should not be in the military. Some may think they want to want to just be like everyone else, become a christian have a family...WRONG. They loathe the straight life and loathe those that are normal. They have their own territories too and as a straight you are more safe going into a crime infested ghetto than into one of their seized areas. And that is the truth!!!! Like or not!
Jefferson... authored for the Virginia legislature in which homosexuals would be punished with emasculation.
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So the slaveowner had big problems with homosexuality. If that don’t beat all.
This is Romney’s base for sure, and whomever this bunch endorses will lose bigtime!
Thank God that Rush and Sarah had the sense to avoid it.
No, not over Germany, but over the manner of atrociousness that Hitler practiced, and the type of threat he presented to the West.
The problem with that sort of thinking is that if we hadn't allied ourselves with Stalin, Germany would probably have defeated the USSR, freeing some 200 divisions to fight us.
Sometimes you have to deal with the devil.
>>I also don’t reject the vote of a homosexual.
In other words you’re a political whore who will prostitute your (alleged) moral standards to garner influence upon temporal governance.
You are the bigot!
| So those who are saying the Republicans have to be for the homosexual agenda in order to win are senseless. We would LOSE voters that way. Megatons of voters. Even California defeated gay “marriage” at the ballot box and we are what? 2/3 democrats? For religious, moral, or scientific reasons ... When you put a face on the "tolerance of homosexuality" ... Most Americans do not support the homosexual agenda. It's that simple.
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In conservative guise.
Applies to demons of all kinds. Demons loathe anything good.
If you're asking whether I know you personally, no I do not.
Read the story as it unfolded at CPAC. An invited traditional conservative speaker (I can’t believe we have to almost hyphenate conservative these days) was shouted down by the GOPride and maybe others to the point of no free speech for this invited speaker. What more needs to be explained or defended to true-conservatives (here we go again, hyphenation)? Tolerance is only one way with “gays”. They can show their intolerance for you and your values but, no way, no how are you to show any intolerance of their perverted, damaging & progressive agenda.
Anyone calling themselves “conservative” should know what a “conservative” is.
Lord willing, constitutional-conservatives birthed from the Tea Parties can claim the title and definition as “conservatives” for years to come.
Those dots don't connect. Libertarianism is the push for the smallest possible government with the least possible amount of power over people's right to personal business and contract. Libertarian critics point to the necessity of a certain level of government power for infrastructure and defense needs, but there is certainly no connection with socialism in any libertarian criticism - the two political philosophies are headed in diametrically opposite directions.
As for the requirement that conservative Christianity be the necessary basis for political Conservatism - even during the Founder's day, when the vast majority of religious affiliation was overwhelmingly Christian, the differences between churches and sects was often virulently argued over the accuracy of each one's fundamental truth, each truly believing the others were bound for hell, and that laws should be made to support their position. And in those days, the moral issue that was tearing churches apart in the name of "God versus political expediency" was not gays, but that of SLAVERY - so much so, that the Constitution was nearly not created over the vitriolic differences of religious, moral and political opinion.
For these reasons, the Founders based the Constitution on the immortal foundation of negative rights, and the People over the government, rather than specifying which Christian affiliation should be regarded as the backbone of the country (and the fact that that such a brilliantly Solomonic solution is ANCHORED in the Judeo-Christian religious teachings of Western Civilization IS MY POINT). The 1st Amendment, as a matter of fact, was created precisely to protect this ongoing argument between religions (and Jews and Hindus were also acknowledged as religions in that day, so the intent was not to limit it to Christians alone).
This thread has turned Freeper against Freeper, and it is a direct result of CPAC enabling the infiltration of a major conservative organization by GOProud - a gay activist group. If Freepers could take a breather, they'd see that such destructive infighting - and NOT the belief that gay activism will be accepted by conservatives - WAS GOProud's GOAL!
Such infiltration WILL CONTINUE AS LONG AS IT WORKS. That's why I believe that focus on original Constitutional principles is the only effective way to fight this kind of POLITICAL sabotage under the GUISE of Christian-baiting by gays - and I believe the Founder's would agree, because it's literally how THEY handled it effectively enough to hold together and form the country.
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