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To: Ron Jeremy

Exactly.

I do not understand where the sense is in shutting anyone out of conservatism. It’s about small government and liberty. Not burning gays at the stake.

We should invite gays into the movement. They are not stupid people, and many of them would likely be conservatives if there weren’t this assumption that we hate gays. (Which apparently, some on FR do.)

We should have a new message to gays: we oppose gay marriage on Constitutional grounds. We do not hate you, and you don’t need to hate us.

No one has to approve of what they do on their own time, but they’re still people, and we’re all equal in this country.


52 posted on 02/19/2010 6:41:44 PM PST by Feline_AIDS (Boop boop hoop yeah!)
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To: Feline_AIDS

“We should invite gays into the movement”

I don’t know about you, but I wouldn’t invite drug addicts or polygamists into the Republican Party any more than unrepentant sodomites. I want my kids to grow up with clear values and not think that its normal or healthy for a man to find erotic stimulation with the fecal waste organ of another man. To me it’s common sense.


57 posted on 02/19/2010 6:50:06 PM PST by DesertRenegade
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To: Feline_AIDS
You are so wrong, wrong, wrong. We should invite CONSERVATIVES into the movement. If they choose to reveal their sexual proclivities, they do so at their own risk. No Republican anywhere is talking about "burning gays at the stake." We are talking about prohibiting gays from denying us our right to peacefully reject open homosexuality in our societies.

Small government and liberty BY DEFINITION make a person's private sexual choices between consenting adults ALTOGETHER IRRELEVANT. You want to give them relevance and bolster the ridiculous notion that those of us who understand that they are and MUST REMAIN irrelevant are somehow connected to "hate." It is bullsh*t, and you need to stop where you are and rethink your take on it.

84 posted on 02/19/2010 7:15:17 PM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent.)
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To: Feline_AIDS; Ron Jeremy

“We should have a new message to gays: we oppose gay marriage on Constitutional grounds. We do not hate you, and you don’t need to hate us.”

Oh, so conservatives should have a new message to gays that we oppose gay marriage at the federal level, and leave it to our constituencies to choose their own course at the state level? Then we should have taken that course with other civil rights issues, too, then. Too late for that. You federalize civil rights or privileges for some, you’re stuck with the battle for federalizing them for all.

If they’re going to make the argument you make, conservatives should also fight to remove marriage from the tax code entirely. And they should fight to end federal civil rights legislation.

Fat chance on either of those things happening.


118 posted on 02/20/2010 7:11:26 AM PST by LibertarianInExile (When Republicans don't vote conservative, conservatives don't vote Republican.)
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To: Feline_AIDS

You’re not giving up on this issue, I see.


121 posted on 02/20/2010 7:39:18 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Feline_AIDS
We should have a new message to gays: we oppose gay marriage on Constitutional grounds.

How about opposing homosexual marriage on Judeo-Christian values - you know, those same values that America & our Constitution was founded.

btw, it's not "gay" to choose the perverted lifestyle of homosexuality that God has stated is an abomination. Of course, if you reject God and His morals, than you're no better than an animal without a conscience.

122 posted on 02/20/2010 7:46:38 AM PST by newfreep (Palin/DeMint 2012 - Bolton: Secy of State)
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To: Feline_AIDS

+1


123 posted on 02/20/2010 7:57:01 AM PST by mnehring
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To: Feline_AIDS

Faggots in, I’m out.


129 posted on 02/20/2010 8:33:38 AM PST by stevio (Crunchy Con - God, guns, guts, and organically grown crunchy nuts.)
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