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Starship pilots: speed kills, especially warp speed
http://www.newscientist.com ^ | February 17 2010 | Valerie Jamieson

Posted on 02/18/2010 3:22:11 PM PST by Para-Ord.45

Star Trek fans, prepare to be disappointed. Kirk, Spock and the rest of the crew would die within a second of the USS Enterprise approaching the speed of light.

The problem lies with Einstein's special theory of relativity. It transforms the thin wisp of hydrogen gas that permeates interstellar space into an intense radiation beam that would kill humans within seconds and destroy the spacecraft's electronic instruments.

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To: Still Thinking

:-)


61 posted on 02/18/2010 3:45:12 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: RightOnline

I bet they had a guy in a red shirt scrape the bugs off of the windshield.


62 posted on 02/18/2010 3:47:00 PM PST by Carl LaFong (Experts say experts should be ignored.)
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To: hdbc

I dunno .. I’m still pondering over the concept of “clear aluminum”.


63 posted on 02/18/2010 3:47:11 PM PST by plinyelder ("I've noticed that everybody that is for abortion has already been born." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: GAB-1955; Fiddlstix
You were saying ...

Time dilation on the ship close to the speed of light would make only ten years pass for the crew.

Yeah, you need at least Warp 9 ... :-) ... Post #52

64 posted on 02/18/2010 3:47:46 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Tijeras_Slim; Windcatcher
You were saying ...

10 years is still a long time to listen to the kids whining “Are we there yet?”

It wouldn't take 10 years; you can use Warp 9 ... :-) ... Post #52

65 posted on 02/18/2010 3:49:28 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: thesharkboy

The faster an object’s velocity; the slower time passes. This is called Einstein’s Special Theory of Relativity and has been proven to be true innumerable times by comparing atomic clocks. Perfectly synchronized atomic clocks will show differences if one is placed on a plane. The one that travelled, even at a modest subsonic speed, will show a slower time.

This happens every day in particle accelerators. Sub-atomic particles with lifespans in the nanoseconds can last hundreds, even thousands of times longer when they are travelling close to the speed of light.

It is easy to figure out the time dilation experienced by traveling objects. Divide the velocity of the object by the speed of light and square the results. Subtract the result from one and square root it. The final result will be the amount of slowing of time of the traveling object. For example, if an astronaut on a spaceship left earth at a constant velocity of 90% the speed of light (.9c) to a planet 10 light-years away, his velocity would be 270,000 kps and should be divided by the speed of light (300,000 kps) which comes out to .9. Square it (.9 x .9) = .81. Subtract from one (1 - .81) = .19. Get its square root = .4359. The Time Dilation of the spaceship = .4359, meaning, for the 10 light-year trip, the astronaut only experiences 43.59% of time that people on earth would experience. For the ten light-year trip, the astronaut only experiences the duration of the trip to last 4.359 years, whereas ten years would’ve passed on the earth.

To reiterate, the closer an object approaches the speed of light; the slower time passes for it. It is certainly possible for a spaceship to travel 50,000 light years and only experience 10 years subjective time. Heck, it’s possible for a spaceship to travel across the entire universe of billions of light years and only experience a split second of time, if they are just a trillionth of a percentage below light speed.


66 posted on 02/18/2010 3:49:38 PM PST by Edward Watson (Fanatics with guns beat liberals with ideas)
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To: Star Traveler

Ah!

It’s logarithmic, it seems.

So Warp Factor 7 or 8 would do nicely, and get you there in 1 to 5 years.


67 posted on 02/18/2010 3:50:12 PM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: F15Eagle
See Post #52
68 posted on 02/18/2010 3:50:53 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: FateAmenableToChange

I got confused trying to do the math, converting everything into parsecs, until I realized that that was the wrong space movie series.


69 posted on 02/18/2010 3:52:24 PM PST by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality. (Hi Mom.))
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To: thesharkboy

“Huh? If it takes light 50,000 years to make this distance, how are people going to do it in 10? Am I missing something? “

Yes you are, as are the folks who wrote the article. You don’t actually go the speed of light, you travel through a worm hole...


70 posted on 02/18/2010 3:52:28 PM PST by babygene (Figures don't lie, but liars can figure...)
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To: RinaseaofDs

Hell, I had a ‘68 Chevelle SS396 that could do Warp 6 in 14 seconds.


71 posted on 02/18/2010 3:52:37 PM PST by Carl LaFong (Experts say experts should be ignored.)
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To: Still Thinking

Hee hee hee... especially cherry!

LLS


72 posted on 02/18/2010 3:53:06 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (hussama will never be my president... NEVER!)
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To: RightOnline

LOL! That was my first thought.


73 posted on 02/18/2010 3:54:04 PM PST by Lady Heron
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To: Sloth

But somebody still has to put a receiving stargate at each destination world for the system to work.
Still not happy with SGU though.


74 posted on 02/18/2010 3:54:37 PM PST by Freeper Fanatic
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To: RightOnline

Right!! Everybody knows that!!!!


75 posted on 02/18/2010 3:54:41 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: RightOnline

Actually, it certainly is possible to travel close to the speed of light without subjecting the astronauts to fatal doses of radiation.

This is done by having an intense magnetic field that deflects the atoms in front of the starship. If this is projected far enough and is strong enough; virtually all particles will be redirected along the lines of magnetic force.

The shield will cause starship designs to be nonlinear, to keep the habitable sections away from the magnetic poles of the field, but that’s just engineering. After all, if the earth’s magnetic field shields us from harmful radiation; so too with a smaller, but much stronger field shield a starship.


76 posted on 02/18/2010 3:58:27 PM PST by Edward Watson (Fanatics with guns beat liberals with ideas)
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To: Bender2; Lil'freeper
I think they've been dipping into the Romulan Ale Spock Indeed Captain
77 posted on 02/18/2010 4:02:55 PM PST by big'ol_freeper ("Anyone pushing Romney must love socialism...Piss on Romney and his enablers!!" ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: al baby
"I never got into any of the new series But Marina Sirtis looked like a lot of fun."

Yes indeed. And Dr. Beverly Crusher was easy on the eyes too.
But her son Wesley (Weasely) ought to have been airlocked BattleStar Galactica style.

78 posted on 02/18/2010 4:02:59 PM PST by StormEye
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To: Edward Watson; thesharkboy
Perfectly synchronized atomic clocks will show differences if one is placed on a plane. The one that travelled, even at a modest subsonic speed, will show a slower time.

That's not the only effect, though. Increased gravity also slows down time, so a clock down at sea level, closer to the center of the Earth, would have a tendency to run slower than one at high altitude, partially canceling out the relativistic effect of motion.

79 posted on 02/18/2010 4:03:13 PM PST by Sloth (Civil disobedience? I'm afraid only the uncivil kind is going to cut it this time.)
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To: Sloth
chunky salsa.

You're an optimist. I feel pretty confident that near instant acceleration to lightspeed would leave something like a very hot steam room where the room is filled with reddish-pink steam.

80 posted on 02/18/2010 4:06:09 PM PST by FateAmenableToChange
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