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Starship pilots: speed kills, especially warp speed
http://www.newscientist.com ^ | February 17 2010 | Valerie Jamieson

Posted on 02/18/2010 3:22:11 PM PST by Para-Ord.45

Star Trek fans, prepare to be disappointed. Kirk, Spock and the rest of the crew would die within a second of the USS Enterprise approaching the speed of light.

The problem lies with Einstein's special theory of relativity. It transforms the thin wisp of hydrogen gas that permeates interstellar space into an intense radiation beam that would kill humans within seconds and destroy the spacecraft's electronic instruments.

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To: Sloth
cheap and crappy sci fi. Stargate is sci fi for people who don't like to think.
101 posted on 02/18/2010 4:33:13 PM PST by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: Sloth

102 posted on 02/18/2010 4:35:01 PM PST by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: Deaf Smith

One can only hope.


103 posted on 02/18/2010 4:37:39 PM PST by RightOnline
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To: All
You're all missing the easiest and obvious, if improbable, solution to this problem.


104 posted on 02/18/2010 4:56:10 PM PST by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality. (Hi Mom.))
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To: RightOnline

They miss the obvious. Light speed isn’t diddly in space travel. Just to get to Proxima Centauri, the star nearest to Earth, at 4.243 light years, at the speed of light takes, obviously, 4.243 years.

Enter speed of light doubling. Round off the distance to 4 light years, and at twice the speed of light it takes 2 years, four times the speed of light just 1 year, eight times the speed of light, six months....

32,786 times the speed of light, 1 hr and 8 minutes. About. Just to get to a star that is “right next door.”

But now the good news. Welcome to the world of tachyons.

Tachyons are theoretical faster than light particles. Theoretical because they have never been observed, or observed interacting with slower than light particles. That is, nothing has ever been observed going faster than light.

But they may have some very interesting properties, if they do exist.

For example, to reach the speed of light, a particle must gain an amazing amount of energy. But as soon as it crosses to a faster than light speed, instead of being the fastest slower than light particle, it becomes the *slowest* tachyon.

It cannot take on any more energy, so theoretically again, to keep going even faster, it has to give up energy. It no longer needs energy to accelerate. It has to give up energy to accelerate. Thus the fastest tachyons have very little energy at all.

So once a spaceship is going faster than light, the more it brakes, the faster it goes. It only needs a huge amount of energy to slow down enough to go back to slower than light speeds.


105 posted on 02/18/2010 5:01:37 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: thesharkboy
Huh? If it takes light 50,000 years to make this distance, how are people going to do it in 10?

You obviously don't understand warp drive physics.

You really need to read up on your Zefram Cochrane.

106 posted on 02/18/2010 5:05:56 PM PST by Jim Noble (Hu's the communist?)
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To: Sloth

Which is called GENERAL Theory of Relativity. The SPECIAL Theory of Relativity is in relation to velocity.


107 posted on 02/18/2010 5:12:32 PM PST by Edward Watson (Fanatics with guns beat liberals with ideas)
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To: Edward Watson

Excellent, just excellent presentation of the facts. You are absolutely correct in your math... thanks for posting a really amazing synopsis of relativity fact.


108 posted on 02/18/2010 5:12:45 PM PST by hot4plasma
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To: RightOnline

Lol!


109 posted on 02/18/2010 5:13:19 PM PST by Edward Watson (Fanatics with guns beat liberals with ideas)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

WOW!
I’ll be damned!

Beam me up Scotty. lol


110 posted on 02/18/2010 5:18:34 PM PST by plinyelder ("I've noticed that everybody that is for abortion has already been born." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: stainlessbanner; blogOps; Mr Fuji; ThomasSawyer; kronos77; DesScorp; Tuketu; BattleHymn; ...
Two words: Inertial Dampeners..



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111 posted on 02/18/2010 5:52:32 PM PST by KevinDavis (Ad Astra Per Aspera!!!)
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To: RightOnline; KevinDavis

wormholes people!!


112 posted on 02/18/2010 5:59:58 PM PST by GeronL (I pledge allegiance to the Principles of the Bill of Rights and to protect and defend it...)
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To: RightOnline; KevinDavis

warp speed is not the speed of light now is it...

it is more like the Warp bubble of Alcubierre drive....if that is possible..


113 posted on 02/18/2010 6:00:13 PM PST by Vaquero (BHO....'The Pretenda from Kenya')
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To: Vaquero

Cavitation of spacetime ... inside the bubble remains stable.


114 posted on 02/18/2010 6:03:43 PM PST by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: Edward Watson

Excellent! ... And a photon remains in the present of where it was generated, never wavering into the future or into the past as a photon, thus it crosses the universe in no time lapse for the photon. Could we then say that the photon is ‘carrying’ a bit of time in itself thus it is in ‘cavitation’ to the universe around it?


115 posted on 02/18/2010 6:12:52 PM PST by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: kAcknor
If you ever saw a human body after it has been hit by a train at 45 mph you wouldn't make comments like this: There were 'scientists' that said that trains traveling more than 45 miles per hour would kill because the human body would not hold up.
116 posted on 02/18/2010 6:14:16 PM PST by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

She always reminded me of a praying mantis and I thought she liked girls only.


117 posted on 02/18/2010 6:17:35 PM PST by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

I thought Tachyons were obscene. Aren’t they used by strippers?


118 posted on 02/18/2010 6:20:21 PM PST by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: thesharkboy
"Am I missing something?"

Yes, the 'Trekkie's' understanding of what "Warp Five" meant :o)

119 posted on 02/18/2010 6:54:31 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Democracy, the vilest form of government, pits the greed of an angry mob vs. the rights of a man)
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To: cripplecreek
"Actually the Enterprise didn’t travel at light speed."

Of course not, that was way too slow for the Federation's business!

120 posted on 02/18/2010 6:56:17 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Democracy, the vilest form of government, pits the greed of an angry mob vs. the rights of a man)
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