Posted on 02/17/2010 8:27:21 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
The Republican presidential nominee, an Arizona senator, was a maverick, which was part of his charm. He spoke and acted impulsively, which was part of his problem. Voters thought his entertaining dimensions might be incompatible with presidential responsibilities. For example, he selected a running mate most Americans had never heard of and who had negligible experience pertinent to the presidency. This was 1964.
Barry Goldwater, whose seat John McCain occupies, chose to run with Bill Miller, a congressman from Lockport, N.Y., near Buffalo. Miller, Goldwater cheerfully explained, annoyed Lyndon Johnson. After the Goldwater-Miller ticket lost 44 states, Miller retired to Lockport, where he practiced law and lived in dignified anonymity until his death in 1983. Although he had served as an assistant prosecutor of Nazi war criminals at Nuremberg and spent seven terms in Congress, no one suggested he should be considered for the 1968 Republican presidential nomination.
Yet Sarah Palin, who with 17 months remaining in her single term as Alaska's governor quit the only serious office she has ever held, is obsessively discussed as a possible candidate in 2012. Why? She is not going to be president and will not be the Republican nominee unless the party wants to lose at least 44 states.
Conservatives, who rightly respect markets as generally reliable gauges of consumer preferences, should notice that the political market is speaking clearly: The more attention Palin receives, the fewer Americans consider her presidential timber. The latest Post-ABC News poll shows that 71 percent of Americans -- including 52 percent of Republicans -- think she is not qualified to be president.(continued)
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Wooptee do.
Not to mention being one of the top oil producing states in the country. The governor of Alaska has to manage vastly huge national resources across vast lands,
Actually, that's done by the Federal Minerals Management Service. The governor does little more than make sure the state gets its cut of the royalties.
No one said she had to graduate from a specific set of universities. One does not have to even graduate college to be well-educated and well-read. It's what's in the person's mind, not the paper that counts.
It is also unreasonable to suggest that a college graduate, entrepreneur, former mayor, commissioner, and Governor is not widely read or well-educated.
Sorry, but none of those things guarantee education or wide reading. I've none complete known complete ignoramouses who somehow managed to graduate from Harvard, and history is replete with those who somehow managed to get elected to high political office.
What's important is what's in a person's head, not on her resume, and I'm sorry to say that Palin's interviews and speaches don't reveal the mind of an individual who is particularly knowledgeable or even curious about political philosophy, economics, or world affairs.
Only to those who lack all common sense.
It was pushed by a lot of people, some of whom called themselves populists and many of whom were the elites. their incomes were sheltered. You really don’t know what you are talking about. The progressive income tax is aimed squarely at the middle class, friend and that is the majority, the populus, not the elites.
I was sure you'd come up athsome primeval sound or the other like that, since you had no anwer to my post, and you didn’t disappoint.
“Actually, that's done by the Federal Minerals Management Service. The governor does little more than make sure the state gets its cut of the royalties.”
Yeah?
Ok then..now why don't we look at reality, instead of your fiction?
“Sarah Takes On Big Oil” (a little heard book about Palin.)
Sarah takes on Big Oil: The compelling story of Governor Sarah Palin’s battle with Alaska's ‘Big 3’ oil companies, as told by the state's top oil and gas editors, Kay Cashman and Kristen Nelson (Hardcover)”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2414755/posts
For 30 years, Exxon held a lease to do exploratory drilling at Point Thompson. Exxon never bothered to drill—it simply held the lease as an investment. Over three decades, no governor did anything about the situation. Palin said, “Start the drilling, or lose the lease.” Exxon protested and threatened court action. Palin reminded the company that she also knew the way to the court house. Exxon backed down.
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In a program called “ACES.” Exxon, the world’s largest corporation, protested—but their good old boys weren’t there anymore. They assumed they could walk all over Palin, so they threatened to take their rigs and tankers and leave. She called their bluff, saying, in effect, “Don't let the door hit you in the stern on your way out.”
Exxon stayed, and the other oil companies fell meekly in line. Alaska’s residents reaped the benefits, with enormous royalties being paid by the oil industry generating fat rebate checks for Alaska’ residents. Alaska has no state sales tax and no state income tax. Nevertheless, under Palin, state revenues doubled in 2008. There is no other governor in the United States who can make those claims. Not surprisingly, Palin was the most popular governor in the United States, with approval ratings as high as 93 percent.”
“The governor does little more than make sure the state gets its cut of the royalties” huh?
Chortle!
Tell me something: When are yo going to stop lying eh?
From your posts on this thread so far, Sarah Palin sure has more in her mind than you do.
“Sorry, but none of those things guarantee education or wide reading”
WHT you talking about?
“Wide reading”?
Oh wait, like Karl Marx and “Das Kapital”, Mao's “Little Red Book”, Comrade Kim Il Sung's writings, Malcolm X's writings, and all the good old Alsinki crap?
Cause those are the kinds of “wide redaings” that our current Commander In Cheif” got from Bill Ayers and his other extremist pals, when he was growing up as young man.
“What's important is what's in a person's head, not on her resume”
That makes abut as much sense as one of the usual mindless talk we usually get from Joy Baher.
A person's experience and his resume is separate from what is in his head?
If someone has been running an oil rig in Alaska for years, that knowledge is part of his resume, but is somehow not in head?
I'll take the experience of someone who has been an entrepreneur, former mayor, commissioner, and Governor is over an ex-community organizer from Harvard, with ZERO business or executive experience, any day. It's the idiots from Harvard that landed us in this sorry mess of out of control debts.
The reality is that the vast majority of oil production in Alaska is done on Federal land and offshore, and that's managed by the Minerals Management Service. The state gets a cut the royalties from that production, but doesn't have to do much of anything in the way of management, beyond making sure it gets sent a check.
Yes, there is some production on state land, and those resources are managed by the state, but they're a drop in the bucket compared what's going on in Federally-administered areas.
Palin said, “Start the drilling, or lose the lease.” Exxon protested and threatened court action. Palin reminded the company that she also knew the way to the court house. Exxon backed down.
Sure. That's one of a handful of instances where she showed grit and leadership. Unfortunately, in my book, a candidate needs more than a handful to prove she's ready to be president.
Alaska has no state sales tax and no state income tax. Nevertheless, under Palin, state revenues doubled in 2008. There is no other governor in the United States who can make those claims.
Yeah, thanks to skyrocketing global oil prices and large oil reserves in her state, something over which she had no control.
No other governor was able to "acheive" such a large increase in state revenues at the time because no other state enjoys such large oil reserves.
The fact that she was lucky enough to be governor of a state with large oil reserves, at a time when oil prices where peaking, doesn't say much about her qualities as a fiscal manager, nor does it indicate she's ready to be president.
But I'll tell you what I think is relevant: she jumped ship and resigned right just when oil prices crashed and the state's finances began to seriously deteriorate. That's true leadership for you! /sarcasm
I mean reading the works of Aristotle, Locke, Smith, Hayek, Friedman, and Sowell, as well as the writings of the founding fathers. And yes, it's also important to understand the other side, so it's important to also know the work of men like Machiavelli, Marx and Keynes, as well as have a grasp of modern thinking on matters of economic policy, as popularized by men like Mankiw, Zingales and Feldstein.
Whenever Palin opens her mouth, she betrays a profound ignorance of all things in which any statesman ought to be well-versed.
A person's experience and his resume is separate from what is in his head?
Sometimes it can be. A resume is nothing but paper, and not everyone learns well from experience.
But even so, Palin's resume isn't particularly impressive. Couple that with the underwhelming content of her speaches and interviews, I'd have to say there isn't much there.
I'll take the experience of someone who has been an entrepreneur, former mayor, commissioner, and Governor is over an ex-community organizer from Harvard,
If I had to, I'd take her over Zero as well, but I don't see why we have to settle for such a mediocrity. We can do better.
Tha reality is that it was Sarah Palin, that got Exxon and other big oil companies, that had been sitting on Alaska state oil reserve for decades, without drilling, to finally finally start drilling. That puts a lie to your declaraion that “the governor does little more than make sure the state gets its cut of the royalties” .
Nothing could be further from the truth.
That never stopped you from throwing it out there anyway did it?
That fact of the matters that under Palin, state revenues doubled in 2008. There is no other governor in the United States who can make those claims. Not surprisingly, Palin was the most popular governor in the United States, with approval ratings as high as 93 percent.
Show me any other Governor that did that.
I'll give you one: she's mediocre. She doesn't have a coherent political philosophy. She doesn't have much in the way of fresh ideas, and doesn't seem to have much of a grasp of major policy issues that matter. Worse, she has no compelling vision as to where she would like to take the country, beyond some vague platitudes.
That being said, I won't say I dislike her. She's honest, has some instincts, and her heart's in the right place. I would support her if she aspired to some lower office, like Congresswoman or maybe even Senator.
But president? I'm sorry. She just doesn't have the vision, depth, experience, or gravitas.
Of course, neither does Obama, but I don't see why we should be trying to get his mirror to represent our side.
Most of our past presidents never read any of them fellas, and they still managed to build the United States into the most powerfully and prosperous country in the history of this plane..that is until them fellas that read Aristotle, Locke, Hayek, Mao, Marx and Engles etc, decided to take over, and ruin the country, so much so that right now, we find ourselves in a very dire situation. We are looking at possibly going the way of Greece( as it pertains to our debts)within a few short years here.
I would suggest that we the last thing we need is a presidents who read all these people you are so enamored of.
We need presidents with real life business experience through hard and good times, who have met payrolls, and know how to balance a budget.
Right. And do you have any idea how small a share of total royalty revenue is accounted for by the reserves that they started drilling thanks to her?
That fact of the matters that under Palin, state revenues doubled in 2008.
Yeah, because oil prices went up. Are you saying she was responsible for oil getting up to over $120 a barrel in 2008?
There is no other governor in the United States who can make those claims.
That's because no other governor was lucky enough to have such a large amount of oil production in his state while oil prices were going up as fast as they did in 2008.
As compared to 0bama who opens his mouth, and angels start singing in the skies, oceans open wide, women swoon and faint, and the very earth that we stand upon starts to shake?
That's all that he does, just talk and keep talking. Sucker's had more TV appearances in just one year than Bush did in 4 years.
We don't need a”clean well spoken negro” (Harry Reid). We need a doer with strong fiscal conservative principles, respect for our constitution, not a talker with far left, radical, left wing agenda.
I don't care if someone talks with the “cultured” tones of Haaaaaarvard or not. In fact, it's one sure reason for me NOT to vote for such a fella.
This type of statement don't really make me very optimistic about Palin supporters.
Do you even know who Milton Friedman and Thomas Sowell are?
Understanding Friedman's refutation of Keynes is a LOT more important than simply being able to 'meet a payroll'.
And a balanced budget is not rocket engineering, and usually the nuts and bolts of a balanced budget are the business of the legislature.
don’t=doesn’t
Are you aware that she DOUBLED state revenues in 2008, and had 93% approval ratings, which was higher than any governotr in the country?
And that this was at a time, when Bush's ratings were in the pits, Republicans were losing elections all o0ver the country, and Republicans couldn't be elected dog catcher?
“Yeah, because oil prices went up.”
The price of oil had gone up before, but then there wasn't a single oil producing state in the country, where they managed to actually DOUBLE state revenues in 2008. Not Texas, not Oklahoma, not anywhere.
” Are you saying she was responsible for oil getting up to over $120 a barrel in 2008?”
First of all, crude oil prices fell sharply in 2008:
http://www.mongabay.com/images/commodities/charts/crude_oil.html
Secondly, Sarah Palin doubled state reveues because after she took power, she
“immediately set about implementing a new system of splitting the oil profits, in a program called “ACES.” Exxon, the world’s largest corporation, protested—but their good old boys weren’t there anymore. They assumed they could walk all over Palin, so they threatened to take their rigs and tankers and leave. She called their bluff, saying, in effect, “Don't let the door hit you in the stern on your way out.”
Exxon stayed, and the other oil companies fell meekly in line. “
This is why Alaska's state revenues doubled while other oil producing states never did.
Get it?
So well put.
I just read this post again. It's amazing that Palin supporters will throw Aristotle and John Locke under the bus to make their candidate look good.
Have you ever heard of the principle of Life, Liberty, and Property?
John Locke.
Aristotle's effect on Western philosophy?
Wow, this type of ignorance gives me a headache.
Funny. It gives me a lot of faith in the future of this country.
If we continue to let a bunch of theives, liars and cheats from Haaaarvard steal our money, and ride roughshod over us, this country will go the way of the Roman Empire. We are already half way there.
“Do you even know who Milton Friedman and Thomas Sowell are?”
I like Sowell, and so does Sarah Palin, since she's quoted Sowell a few times in some of her Op-Eds in the Wall Street Journal. As for Friedman, anyone who has done any economics has read something from him.
But that is not the point. You don't have to read any of these people to be a good president, and I am speaking as someone that had read most of the English classics before I was 10.
Some of the best, most succesful and smartest businessmen I have ever met, never read Aristotle in their lives, but you try getting the better of them in any business deal and see where that gets ya. These are the kinds of people we need to run this country.
And are you aware that SHE didn't do it? Or do you really think she had control over global oil prices?
And are you aware what happened after oil prices crashed?
and had 93% approval ratings, which was higher than any governotr in the country?
Sure. Right before the crash, at the peak of the boom. Funny how she didn't stick around long after the oil bust.
As compared to 0bama
I'm not quite sure why you insist on using Zero as our benchmark. IMHO, we conservatives should hold our candidates to a higher standard.
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