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Sarah Palin’s Bad Tea (Southern Avenger)
American Conservative ^ | 2010-02-08 | Jack Hunter aka Southern Avenger

Posted on 02/16/2010 8:10:38 AM PST by rabscuttle385

During her speech to the first ever National Tea Party Convention in Nashville on Saturday, former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin discouraged the very idea of a national organization, urging the movement to stay leaderless and decentralized. This was the most important and valuable part of Palin’s speech.

As for the rest of it–Sarah sounded pretty much like the same old Republican Party.

Despite the many independents that make up the movement, the tea parties in large part represent a long overdue reexamination of conservative principles. A big-spending Democratic president seems to have awakened grassroots conservatives enough to finally lament the big spending of the last Republican president, and plenty of incumbents from both parties face voter backlash in 2010 and possibly beyond, particularly if they supported bailouts, stimulus, national healthcare, or other massive debt-incurring legislation.

The tea partiers are right to acknowledge and denounce Bush’s big-government growth of Medicare, the implementation of No Child Left Behind, and Dubya’s other expansions of the domestic state. But what they still seem to forget is what made conservatives so tolerant of big government during that time—an almost religious preoccupation with supporting the Iraq War.

Today, defense spending remains the largest part of the federal budget, dwarfing the bailouts, stimulus, healthcare, and other government programs that offend tea partiers most, and President Obama is still expanding that budget and escalating our wars. One would think cost-conscious voters would at least question Obama’s wisdom in continuing Bush’s exorbitant foreign policy. Yet few tea partiers are asking such questions, and according to Palin, Obama’s primary weakness is that he’s not enough like George W. Bush.

Following up her tea party speech on “Fox News Sunday,” Palin said of Obama, “If he decided to toughen up and do all that he can to secure our nation and our allies, I think people would perhaps shift their thinking a little bit and decide, Well, maybe he’s tougher than …he is today, and there wouldn’t be as much passion to make sure that he doesn’t serve another four years.”

What is Palin trying to say? That tea party anger towards Obama would lessen if the president was to “toughen up,” becoming even more intent on waging war? Does Palin believe that the massive domestic spending conservatives don’t like would be tolerated so long as Obama increases the massive foreign spending conservatives do like? Isn’t this exactly what happened under Bush?

At a time when a more radicalized, grassroots conservative base could feasibly be persuaded to question government spending as a whole; Palin seems intent on leading the populist Right back into the same old, big government, pro-war, any-war mindset. Conservatives as thoughtful as columnist George Will and as bombastic as radio host Michael Savage have asked recently if American dollars and lives are worth spending in Afghanistan. But for Palin, still, there is no question.

The necessity of endless war and the gargantuan government needed to sustain it is also not in question for the neoconservatives. When uber-neocon Daniel Pipes wrote an article for National Review Online last week called “How to Save the Obama Presidency: Bomb Iran,” the alleged purpose of the piece was to give the commander in chief some pointers on how to keep his command in 2012. But make no mistake—Pipes’s main concern is that somebody bombs Iran, regardless of which president or party. Pat Buchanan responded to Pipes in his syndicated column, asking if Obama would indeed play what the Buchanan calls “the war card,” something presidents have done in the past to boost their popularity. The difference is, traditional conservative Buchanan was clearly chastising what the neoconservative Pipes was advocating—the U.S. waging war simply to boost a politician’s poll numbers.

But Palin didn’t make the distinction, telling Fox News, “Say [Obama] played, and I got this from Buchanan, reading one of his columns the other day. Say he played the war card. Say he decided to declare war on Iran… things would dramatically change if he decided to toughen up and do all that he can to secure our nation…”

If the tea parties are supposed to represent a break from the big spending of both parties, Palin’s foreign policy views alone negate the entire tea party message. If the largest part of the U.S. budget—defense—is to be expanded indefinitely in the name of “toughness,” how can grassroots conservatives argue against bailouts, stimulus, and national healthcare, each of which costs much less? Real “toughness” might include not just using the same old Bush jargon, but a serious cost/benefit analysis of the U.S.’s habit of putting soldiers in harm’s way halfway around the globe for no discernible reason—while just mindlessly assuming our government has America’s best interests at heart.

Above all, real conservative “toughness” might require a real questioning of government at all levels. Unfortunately, conservatives whose attachment to the warfare state remains every bit as passionate as liberals’ attachment to the welfare state, continue to prove they have no serious intention of dismantling big government–only making noise about it. Just like Sarah Palin.


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To: Lakeshark; TigersEye
How bout some links for that charge, specific, clear info only.

You've been here since 2003, and you don't know about McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy, or McCain-Lieberman?

Sheesh.

Start at this link...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2452800/posts?page=11#11

and maybe TigersEye will fill you in with more.

101 posted on 02/16/2010 4:27:21 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: Lakeshark

Well stated,Lakeshark.

One would have to frequent loon sites to find and then post a column like this one.

Very telling.


102 posted on 02/16/2010 4:29:10 PM PST by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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To: SoCalPol
their hate for his military service

McCain is proud that he crashed four Navy planes. He calls it his "greatest success."

http://www.abc15.com/content/news/10questions/story/10-Questions-for-U-S-Senator-John-McCain/4OVTIHgDDE6Nop11f8lirA.cspx

(snip)

10 Questions for U.S. Senator John McCain

(snip)

ABC15: What do you consider your greatest success?

MCCAIN: Managing to crash four Navy airplanes.

(snip)

103 posted on 02/16/2010 4:29:55 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: rintense
I have answered that a number of times. I'm sure that several GOP pols have said it as well.

Do that and illegal aliens will deport themselves in a hurry.

104 posted on 02/16/2010 4:31:32 PM PST by TigersEye (It's the Marxism, stupid! ... And they call themselves Progressives.)
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To: rintense

Exactly.

It is Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin and their ilk who collaborates with the enemy.
Their excuses for the IslamOfascists, believing we were attacked because they say we are occupiers and call us Imperial America.


105 posted on 02/16/2010 4:32:00 PM PST by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: rabscuttle385

Remembrances of the gracious Southern Ladies of Charleston, SC serving Oleander tea.


106 posted on 02/16/2010 4:32:23 PM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't fly, can't ski, can't drive, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best.)
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To: Lakeshark

1%ers....Gang of Four....Ooooh, I really, really like Gang of Four...so McCain-ish as well. Might as well be named after one of the only two people they post about!


107 posted on 02/16/2010 4:33:47 PM PST by CAluvdubya (We need a Commander-in-Chief, not a professor of Law standing at a lectern-Palin 2010)
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To: CMAC51
Now please provide where I indicated either of the above concepts.

Your post #50: I am also smart enough to know that the laws were not written with any intent to enforce them, so collectively they are not enforceable.

Given your blanket statement that laws aren't written to be enforced, then the same line of reasoning applies to any other laws including my example of murder. Apparently you believe our founding fathers wrote the Constitution just for show.

To establish a set of laws that are coherent one to the next; that have specific intent and enforceable outcomes.

Our existing immigration laws couldn't be anymore coherent or specific as to their intent. The obvious purpose is to keep out illegal aliens! What part of that concept don't you understand?

If you apprehend an illegal alien and establish, without violating their civil rights, that they are in fact illegal, what can be done?

What part of illegal don't you understand? They must be deported per our immigration laws! That is the purpose of the law!

So, they simply reenter the country. You catch them again and what can you do. Deport them. So they simply reenter the country... Get the picture? It costs more to apprehend, investigate and deport them than it does for them to get back in.

Terrorists have entered the country as illegal aliens to destroy us from within our own borders. Case in point are the terrorists who tried to attack Fort Dix in New Jersey. Failing to strictly enforcing the existing immigration laws will cost us far more than money. it is a national security issue. Get the picture?
108 posted on 02/16/2010 4:33:49 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: rabscuttle385

Jets crash where I live all the time.
There are various reasons why they crash, and not
always the pilots fault.


109 posted on 02/16/2010 4:34:11 PM PST by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: SoCalPol; rintense; Lakeshark
The Ron PaulBots use every piece of crap against McCain, their underlining purpose is their hate for his military service, being the anti war loons that they are.

You sure could be right about that. 1%ers are 1%ers for valid reasons.

There's an agenda at work here. That's for sure and SARAH PALIN IS A PATRIOT. Linking her to McCain's every word STINKS and it's completely WRONG and completely MALICIOUS.

110 posted on 02/16/2010 4:35:39 PM PST by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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To: SoCalPol
There are various reasons why they crash, and not always the pilots fault.

Four planes...that doesn't sound like simple bad luck to me.

Nice try defending McNuts though.

111 posted on 02/16/2010 4:36:15 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: TigersEye
All great. But there will still be illegals who stay. What to do with them?

And I'd like to see the statements from the candidate who has supported this position, not just a general 'someone' must have said it.

112 posted on 02/16/2010 4:38:30 PM PST by rintense (Only dead fish go with the flow, which explains why Congress stinks.)
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To: rintense
Still using that old Univision interview, huh? Nevermind she’s clarifieed herself several times since.

The Univsion interview is her own words. They don't change regardless of time. Politicians "clarify" when they know the have stated something that doesn't go over well with the public and feel compelled to put some sort of positive spin on the issue. Case in point is Debra Medina and her 9/11 conspiracy statement to Beck last week.
113 posted on 02/16/2010 4:38:36 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: rabscuttle385; onyx; SoCalPol; rintense
Care to find the post where I said that the U.S. government perpetrated the 9/11 attacks (i.e., the "Truther" conspiracy)? Or am I just guilty by association

Bwahahahaha! You did not seriously just say that after all the garbage you post about Palin for the exact same reason?

Hehehehe....hahahaha...*snort*...Hahaha

Case closed!

114 posted on 02/16/2010 4:38:58 PM PST by CAluvdubya (We need a Commander-in-Chief, not a professor of Law standing at a lectern-Palin 2010)
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To: rabscuttle385

You really wouldn’t have a clue about Americans fighting
for their country.


115 posted on 02/16/2010 4:39:32 PM PST by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: Man50D
And how many times does she have to clarify herself? Of course, for you, it will never be enough. You will continually go back to that interview because its what you want to hear, even though it isn't the truth.

And Medina? Laughable. She clarified herself then repeated truther crap in another interview, post clarification.

116 posted on 02/16/2010 4:40:46 PM PST by rintense (Only dead fish go with the flow, which explains why Congress stinks.)
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To: SoCalPol
You really wouldn’t have a clue about Americans fighting for their country.

I don't want to get stuck with the tax bill for incompetence, regardless of where in the Federal government it originates.

117 posted on 02/16/2010 4:41:15 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: rintense
All great. But there will still be illegals who stay. What to do with them?

Not many. If the jobs disappear and it becomes a lot more difficult to get in there will be very few illegal aliens.

118 posted on 02/16/2010 4:41:32 PM PST by TigersEye (It's the Marxism, stupid! ... And they call themselves Progressives.)
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To: CAluvdubya

Poor RecycleRabs.


119 posted on 02/16/2010 4:41:48 PM PST by rintense (Only dead fish go with the flow, which explains why Congress stinks.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Palin has something most politicians don’t have: a down to earth attitude and a real understanding of the American people.


120 posted on 02/16/2010 4:42:02 PM PST by Melian ("Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so.")
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