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LA has its pants on fire, but refuses to take them off.
1 posted on 02/15/2010 9:33:32 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; PAR35; AndyJackson; Thane_Banquo; nicksaunt; MadLibDisease; happygrl; ...

P!


2 posted on 02/15/2010 9:33:58 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (LUV DIC -- L,U,V-shaped recession, Depression, Inflation, Collapse)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Fire all of them and start from scratch.


3 posted on 02/15/2010 9:34:26 AM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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This is what TARP was really about. Spreading money around to insure union govt employees got no cust also tons when to school districts. It is all about protecting their golden goose as a protected class.


4 posted on 02/15/2010 9:35:51 AM PST by Frantzie (TV - sending Americans towards Islamic serfdom - Cancel TV service NOW)
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I love seeing LA and in general CA crashing and burning; it is going to take something dramatic to force the needed reforms.


5 posted on 02/15/2010 9:36:35 AM PST by C19fan
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To: TigerLikesRooster
I would dissolve the union, throw its leaders in jail, and give everyone a 25% pay cut for pissing me off.
6 posted on 02/15/2010 9:37:00 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (November is coming.)
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What’s really bizarre in all this, is that the mayor Tony Villar is a flaming reconquista leftist, stuck between his desire for higher office, and this mess.

He has to balance the budget. Now his own comrades, are pushing back.

The irony.


7 posted on 02/15/2010 9:39:02 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (2012: Repeal it all... All of it!)
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This is easy. LA should double the number of layoffs and ask the Unions....”How do you like that?”


9 posted on 02/15/2010 9:42:34 AM PST by RC2
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Firing 10% using a lottery, instead of senority, might make the uncharitable a$$holes more amenable to a pay cut.


10 posted on 02/15/2010 9:44:24 AM PST by zek157
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The unions would prefer to see their members laid off than take a paycut to keep every one working. In the private sector, they ARE being laid off or shown the door.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find only things evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelogus

11 posted on 02/15/2010 9:45:41 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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CA is going down in flames. While there is certainly more than one reason why this is happening it is interesting/ironic/sad to watch how in spite of the destruction being wrought immigration is never listed as causal in the least.

We have become one of the most delusional nations in history and we & our posterity will pay the piper for our ignorance/deceitfulness.


12 posted on 02/15/2010 9:47:37 AM PST by Altura Ct.
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I keep saying, the solution is right in front of them:

spend more money!


13 posted on 02/15/2010 9:51:20 AM PST by lurk
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Finally the chance for Revenge against the fat lady at the Driver Liscense Office.


16 posted on 02/15/2010 10:04:33 AM PST by screaminsunshine
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First of all, LA wasn’t really “laying off” all that many. Most were being moved to other agencies within county government and some were being offered early retirement or similar types of acconting gimmicks to move the costs from one budget to others.

Another shell game.

Second, the unions won’t give anything unless they’re going to get something in return. They’ll get something that for now looks ok to the taxpayer.

Ten years later the dam will burst and there will be even bigger problems becuase the unions were promised something by a mayor who is a worthless pos who will be long gone by then and someone else is left to clean up the mess.

As a resident of CA, I want the state to go bankrupt for the sole purpose of forcing the courts to do something about those union contracts that have a stranglehold on the state (not that I’m that optimistic). But I believe many CA voters will get a wake up call and maybe something can be done about Sacramento.


17 posted on 02/15/2010 10:14:13 AM PST by SZonian (I see people who claim they are victims of "hatred", Alinsky's tactics are alive and well on FR.)
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If the Unions were smart and pragmatic they'd take the cut.

The Unions will destroy themselves over the next couple of years over salary and pensions in the public sector.

The taxpayer is FED UP with their sh!t.

25 posted on 02/15/2010 10:48:54 AM PST by Mariner
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We face the same issues on a smaller scale. One of the problems is that so much of the budget of local governments is non-discretionary. The larger programs - human services, mental health and public health are federal programs that the state has accepted and to which the state provides a funding match. Local county governments are also required to provide a small match and are responsible for delivering the program. Roads are another big budget and that funding mostly comes from gas taxes or federal funds through the state.

The small amount of discretionary funds (about 20% of every property tax dollar to a County) pays for police (sometimes fire) and administration (Treasurer, Auditor, Assessor, Recorder, Clerk/Elections.) Costs for individualized functions like planning and building costs are offset by permit fees.

The unions for the big state programs won't bargain for pay reductions because they are a state funded program. Likely, they aren't going to get laid off. The police, fire and other discretionary programs were where the local unions relinquished a COLA to keep more employees working. They knew we didn't have the money and it was fish or cut bait.

The real problem is that as staff is reduced, so must the functions be reduced. The state and federal government can't demand the same bureaucracy with fewer people to do the job. The functions have to be pared down to fit staffing. For instance, we no longer have a dedicated code enforcement officer. The job is covered by other positions. So the number of cases has to be pared down to the most egregious to fit available staff.

The state passes so many regulations, permitting processes, reporting requirements, (like the recent defensible space requirements for wildfire around houses,) that we no longer can afford the staff to implement them. However, since they are still on the books that leaves a gaping vulnerability for suit for non-enforcement or lengthy time waits for inspection and permitting which slows economic development. You can't just cut the budget, the state and feds have to back off requirements as well in order to have the smaller government we want.

27 posted on 02/15/2010 11:13:30 AM PST by marsh2
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This is a 1983 article from Atlantic magazine, but still very relevant for today.

VOTING FOR UNEMPLOYMENT: Why union workers sometimes choose to lose their jobs rather than accept cuts in wages

28 posted on 02/15/2010 12:16:33 PM PST by Califelephant
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