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Erickson exposed himself as not understanding the law and the issue.
Erickson is a “natural born” idiot.
Agree that Erickson doesn’t know the law. But I always agree with him that this issue should be dropped.
“we recognize and respect his position as President”
No, never. I don’t care where this ass was born... he is not now nor will he ever be my president. He’s a traitor that is destroying my country.
"A conservative movement worthy of leading this nation must be willing to cast aside those who, for whatever reason, cannot and will not be persuaded that the President is our legitimately, constitutionally elected President."
So Erickson, you want to toss a whole lot of people out of the conservative movement. Sorry, Erickson, you don't get to decide. Banning a topic from your website is one thing. Acting like a defacto dictator of the conservative movement is quite another. I suspect a whole lot of people will say 'so long', as I do. As far as I'm concerned, your website and opinion is neither needed nor desired.
No. Clinton still holds the record as sleaziest occupant of our White House in American history, but Obama is by far the most evil. The thug occupying our White House hates America, and any ethical debate, topic, or tactic that weakens his grip on power over our lives is a good thing. We have no obligation to recognize that liar and no obligation to respect the socialist who is attempting to gather more power over us.
An election with so many critical votes counted by ACORN and other votes obtained through information twisted by a compliant socialist faction in the media does not change our basic God-given rights: we are endowed by our Creator with certain unalienable rights, and among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Obam's occupation of our White House does not change God's gift to us.
Obama is spending nearly $6T more than he is bringing in over his four years of tyranny, while trying to lose two wars and take power over our medical care and other aspects of our lives. That's quite a collection of failures for a first year dictator. When a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to place us under absolute despotism, it is our right, it is our duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for our future security. Sorry RedState, but I will continue to "question authority" because "dissent is the highest form of patriotism".
Maybe Barack Obama was born outside of the United States and his parents, figuring it would benefit their son in his future life if he were a citizen of the greatest country in the world which provides its citizens with the greatest educational, career, and business opportunities in the world, fabricated a narrative, a birth record, and placed birth announcements in both the Honolulu Advertiser and the Star Bulletin as "proof" that their son was indeed an American citizen by birth.
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Phoney lying usurper Obama doesn’t belong in the White House. He is an obamanation that causes desolation. A serpent hatched from an egg doesn’t have a COLB. He slithered out of the Abyss. Congress is his two-horned false prophet that punishes through legislation those who won’t worship him or believe the lies read from the teleprompter.
If Obama is an American, he dosn’t seem to like it very much...
If this is his final thought, that means he has promised not to think any more.
Now, if he would only match that promise with the promise not to talk any more, that would be fine with me.
Are you sure ? Are you absolutely sure this is your final word ? Do you promise ?
“...and the Office of President of the United States of America requires that though we may disagree with him and oppose him, we recognize and respect his position as President — a position entrusted to him by 69,456,897 voting Americans, or 52.9% of the popular vote.”
I don’t have to “respect” a darn thing you gutless, spineless fool. Further, I don’t have to “respect” the gross stupidity of 52.9% of the voters, either.
The author of this article is ignorant of the matter and reaches conclusions by way of a faulty process. There is a plausible, repeat, plausible, but unlikely scenario by which all the documents and all of the statements made by the officials of Hawaii after examination of the documents could be consistent with a birth outside of the United States without any conspiracy having taken place. That includes the birth notices in the newspaper. If the birth was outside of the United States under the statutes cited in the reply to follow, it seems perfectly apparent that Obama was not a "natural born citizen" because he was not, in fact, a citizen of the United States at all at the time of his birth if it occurred out of the country.
The problem is that just because there is a plausible scenario by which Obama could have been recorded in Hawaii as being born there when he in fact was not born there, does not mean that that happened. Indeed, there is absolutely no extrinsic evidence (I am discarding the radio interview the grandmother as being recanted) that he was born anywhere other than in Hawaii. The fact that Obama has taken such pains to avoid producing an original longform birth certificate is not necessarily evidence that he was born outside of America. It alone is insufficient proof.
Any officer of the state of Hawaii examining the file would conclude that the longform birth certificate says he was born in Hawaii and there is no evidence to the contrary. Hence the two public announcements of the Hawaiian officials are plausibly consistent with a fraud which might have been committed by the mother or the grandparents but which is not the product of a conspiracy. Either the mother or one of the grandparents could have made a simple application to Hawaii registrar and secured a birth certificate with no documentary evidence other than an affidavit of birth at home and some sort of evidence, such as a drivers license which was held by Ann Dunham Obama, of residence in the state.
Here is a reply along those lines from some time ago:
I have seen the article posted some time ago here on Free Republic: Clearing the Smoke on Obama’s Eligibility: An Intelligence Investigator’s June 10 Report ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2303258/posts) which makes it clear that his mother, or even his grandparents, could have secured a birth certificate merely on the filing of an affidavit or perhaps even only an application. Evidently, his mother could have presented a drivers license which she evidently had or even as little as a telephone bill to show proof of residency, simply averring that her son was born there in Hawaii, and she would have received a Hawaiian birth certificate. The article cited goes on to describe three other methods by which a fraudulent certificate for Barack Obama could have been obtained in 1961 in Hawaii.
More, the author continues to the effect that Stanley Ann Obama would have been motivated to do so because her son was not entitled to citizenship under the existing statute if he were born abroad with only one parent a citizen who had not lived five years after the age of 14 in America.
Therefore, it is possible that when Doctor Fukino examined the "vital records" she saw an application or affidavit that said that the baby was born in Hawaii and she saw the Birth Certificate that was issued as a result which would also show birth in Hawaii. She saw nothing indicating a foreign birth in the file and therefore she could quite properly say that the vital records show birth in Hawaii. Indeed, to say anything else would be to venture a fact which appeared nowhere in the record.
While I take issue with your well reasoned and articulate perspective on the motivations of Doctor Fukino-I come to exactly the opposite conclusions-I am compelled to agree that there is still plenty of room to maintain that, in the absence of the original birth certificate and supporting documents, if any, the matter remains open. That is not to say that the probabilities are for a foreign birth, merely that it is not illogical to maintain that a foreign birth is quite consistent with the facts as we know them, the Certification of Live Birth, the procedures and regulations in place in Hawaii in 1961, and two statements of Doctor Fukino.
I think we probably both can agree that we will find nothing in the file which shows foreign birth. We might also find nothing in the file apart from the Obama family's self serving declarations which show a domestic birth-and perhaps not even such declarations. That would leave the ball where it is but that is a defeat for us. We have the burden to move it across the goal line. Even if the original birth certificate were released and it was revealed that it was based on family affidavits, we lose. We need extrinsic evidence of foreign birth.
The election may have “settled” the issue in Erickson’s mind but all that has really happened is to bring a serious election process flaw to light. If the process is not fixed, it is possible this can happen again with the attendant political uproar. Fix the process flaw and never have to deal with it again.
Add Erickson to the list of sell outs and ignoramuses.
OK, Erick so you tell us: WHY has Comrade 0bama spent over a million bucks to hide the details of his birth, his life, his education, his travel history, why hasn’t the hospital where he was actually born come forth to proclaim just how ‘proud’ they are to have been his birthplace?
Go collect your 30 pieces of silver, from whoever bought you off.
“Notwithstanding the same, no American should ever sanction what would amount to a judicial coup — the removal of the President of the United States after 52.9% of the American public instructed their Electoral College representatives to place their votes for him.”
Well, that clears it up. Apparently, the recognized process by which the American people can legally amend the Constitution no longer applies.
I don’t subscribe to the conspiracy theories that attempt to link the placement of the birth announcement with a covert plan to have the infant 0bama elected President. That’s ridiculous.
I DO, however, fully agree with those who challenge his eligibility based on his citizenship at time of birth. It seems perfectly clear that his claimed father was NOT a US Citizen.
There are far too many questions about a great deal of this pretender’s past that deserve answers...citizenship among them.
It’s time to take back the country. But, that doesn’t start by selectively enforcing the Constitution.