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To: AmishDude

I appreciate your reasoned response.

Although the sex orientation segregation is currently present, this does not stop females from being harrassed or assaulted. this is a large concern for the military at present.

The notion of a “protected class” is troublesome and I see your point. I still maintain that IF prosecution for behavior unbecomming to the conduct of a military person were across the board ( as in the case of fraternization currently) this could be dealt with.

There will always be ‘favortism’ and unfairness in any organization, jealousies and envy and retribution that is not related to sexuality. But you do make valid points for consideration.


127 posted on 02/15/2010 5:02:47 AM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (Ok, joke's over....Bring back Bush !)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
Although the sex orientation segregation is currently present, this does not stop females from being harrassed or assaulted.

Certainly nothing would, but sex segregation comes with assumptions about how fraternization takes place which would be shattered with outed homosexuals being present.

Assault isn't the only problem, of course. Good order and discipline requires self-discipline and we have seen what happens when the sexes are mixed in close quarters. Female sailors are medivaced because of pregnancy.

The notion of a “protected class” is troublesome and I see your point.

And, again, not without precedent. The second that officers come out of the closet will be charges of discrimination and a not insignificant proportion will be frivolous. Simply making the charges, however, will be an assertion of authority and will provide the accuser an aura of protection.

I still maintain that IF prosecution for behavior unbecomming to the conduct of a military person were across the board ( as in the case of fraternization currently) this could be dealt with.

I can't disagree. Because of sex segregation, however, the standards for same-sex fraternization would have to be much stricter and we know that that cannot happen because of PC. Even the mildest social pressures against such things will be prosecuted as bigotry.

But you do make valid points for consideration.

Thank you. What I found interesting was that DADT applies to the Coast Guard as well. I thought that they might be exempt, not being a combat organization. In any case, DADT will fall with conscription, when men are perfectly willing to assert that they are gay to get out of service. I wouldn't be surprised if quite a few DADT discharges are false.

149 posted on 02/15/2010 8:39:47 AM PST by AmishDude
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