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Afghanistan: first stage of operation Moshtarak declared a success
Telegraph (U.K.) ^ | February 13, 2010 | Sean Rayment, Patrick Sawer and Ben Farmer

Posted on 02/14/2010 7:31:32 AM PST by Schnucki

The first stage of the biggest military offensive ever launched by Nato troops in Afghanistan has been declared a success as thousands of US and British troops seized a string of Taliban strongholds across central Helmand.

In a series of complex airborne assaults, more than two thousand British and US troops began flooding into Taliban-controlled territory under Operation Moshtarak.

The long-awaited push, involving about 15,000 Nato and Afghan troops, was not without cost. A Grenadier Guard was killed when his Jackal patrol vehicle struck an improvised explosive device in the Nad-e-Ali area of Helmand. A US Marine died in a separate attack.

Gordon Brown, the Prime Minister, said: “I want to pass on my condolences to the family and friends of one of our soldiers, very brave, very courageous, lost in this assault, making the ultimate sacrifice for our country.”

The battle for the Taliban heartlands in central Helmand is the first significant test of the strategy proposed by Gen Stanley McChrystal, the American commanding the Afghanistan operation, for achieving success.

The mission is designed to “break the back” of the Taliban in Helmand and commanders warned that casualties could be the highest of any operation in the eight-year war. On the eve of the operation, Lt Col Matt Bazeley, the commanding officer of 28 Engineer Regiment, whose men would be some of the first to land and be charged with clearing routes through minefields, told his soldiers: “We are going into the heart of darkness.

“It is bloody dangerous out there. This is what you have been trained for. If things go wrong, no sad moments, no pauses, we regather, re-cock, and go again.

“I repeat: much of this operation rests on us.”

Before the battle started on the ground, RAF Tornados, flying high above the central Helmand Valley,

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; moshtarak; taliban

1 posted on 02/14/2010 7:31:32 AM PST by Schnucki
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To: Schnucki
Saw this in another thread. Don't know who took the picture, but it is a good one:


2 posted on 02/14/2010 7:36:15 AM PST by rlmorel (We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
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To: Schnucki

Kill ‘em, stack ‘em, and let the Christian God sort them out.


3 posted on 02/14/2010 7:37:42 AM PST by struggle ((The struggle continues))
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To: Schnucki

This operation was not a success. The enemy slipped away to fight somewhere else.

They have taken ground but have not defeated the enemy.


4 posted on 02/14/2010 7:54:17 AM PST by Sherman Logan (Never confuse schooling with education.)
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To: struggle

GO TROOPS!!!


5 posted on 02/14/2010 7:55:46 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Its time to CLEARLY threaten a huge, middle-class American TAX REVOLT in Tea Party signs & placards)
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To: Schnucki

As the Great Ted Nugent would say “ WACK ‘EM AND STACK ‘EM!”


6 posted on 02/14/2010 8:08:44 AM PST by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: rlmorel

The caption that goes with your picture shows the photographer as Goran Tomasevic of REUTERS.
“A U.S. Marine from Bravo Company, 1st Battalion, 6th Marines, takes aim as he tries to protect an Afghan man and his child after Taliban fighters opened fire in the town of Marjah, in Nad Ali district, Helmand province, February 13, 2010. REUTERS/Goran Tomasevic”


7 posted on 02/14/2010 8:12:53 AM PST by amom
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To: Sherman Logan

Didn’t read that in the article - nothing about them slipping away.

Prior articles have noted how we closed off escape routes PRIOR to the main assault.


8 posted on 02/14/2010 8:28:12 AM PST by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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To: Sherman Logan
"This operation is not a success."

Precisely. That a commander would make a statement that they are not there to kill the Taliban defeats the mission before it even starts. The Taliban are not going to simply give up their cult of death philosophy and re-integrate into a stone-age existence because some government officials come into the provence and start giving edicts. The Taliban and ALL of their allies must be liquidated or neutralized for the mission to be a success.

9 posted on 02/14/2010 8:31:21 AM PST by gigster
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To: Blueflag
Gen Carter said success was not being measured by Taliban deaths. “There have been some casualties in terms of the insurgency and there have been a number of people detained. I think, encouragingly, there is the odd sign of people potentially wanting to reconcile or wanting to reintegrate into the local community, and of course that’s important because this is about protecting a population and it’s about an argument."

In other words, the enemy got away to fight somewhere else.

Mao: "The enemy advances, we retreat; the enemy camps, we harass; the enemy tires, we attack; the enemy retreats, we pursue."

10 posted on 02/14/2010 8:47:50 AM PST by Sherman Logan (Never confuse schooling with education.)
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To: Sherman Logan
You are wrong...see this....:

The Battle for Marjah

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Operation Moshtarak, the assault on the Marjah District in the Helmand Province started today.  The press has been looking at it for months from various angles with stories stressing that secrecy has been lost, or that civilians will be killed, or with speculation on why the military is publicizing Operation Moshtarak in the first place. These stories all contain grains of truth but none of them is even close to telling the real story.  Here it is: when the Marines crossed the line of departure today, the battle for Marjah had already been won.


11 posted on 02/14/2010 1:22:04 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: G8 Diplomat; SunkenCiv; Marine_Uncle; Fred Nerks; NormsRevenge; Oynx; gandalftb; jveritas; blam; ...

fyi


12 posted on 02/14/2010 1:26:49 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Righto.

We secretly killed all the bad guys before launching the attack that took the ground.

Great work if you can swing it.

Color me skeptical. This is also a great way to claim you “really” won when the enemy slips away. For it to work it would require highly effective human intelligence as to who and where the leaders are, and it is generally believed the clan-based Taliban are among the most difficult groups in the world to get good humint on.

I hope they swung it.


13 posted on 02/14/2010 1:41:17 PM PST by Sherman Logan (Never confuse schooling with education.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I see many of the same doubts often justifiable that we read during 2004 and 2005 during the early stages of the SASO in Iraq. Things will work out as General McChrystal has planned for. It is not just the military but all the NGO's, DoS and other private sources that will move in once the goons are driven out, and the eventual Afghan forces are up to snuff, that will help it come to fruition. Just like we have seen for the most part in Iraq.
Afghans shall one day tend their fields of wheat,other hardy grains, grow nice apples, nuts, etc., and help feed their land and be set up to go big time in exporting once again. And make a profit with no goons lording over them.
All my ravings during those bleak years in Iraq came to past, for the most part in the positive. The same appeals for reason will yet be tested again.
The tangible things such as medical clinics, clean safe schools for their children, electrical power where often non ever existed other then diesel or propane powered generators, improved agriculture methods, new roads, bridges, local police forces, local government elected by the people etc..
The Afghanistan of the future will be much better for it's citizens then any prior time. They will have so much more then they ever had. If good government, Federal and Provincial level can be had, so much the better. They will look at the west as being true friends. Those that came and spilled their blood but then left in peace.
Part of their intrinsic problem throughout the ages has been they did not get any attention from those that claimed to be their government. That is changing.
Pakistan however. Remains a trouble spot in my mind as well as I am sure many at this site and elsewhere. They must get their heads on solid ground. To much is at stake.
14 posted on 02/14/2010 8:42:39 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....)
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