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Immigration: a plan to alter the nation's soul (Applies to USA as well as UK)
Telegraph (UK) ^ | 14 February 2010 | Janet Dailey

Posted on 02/14/2010 4:58:55 AM PST by IbJensen

So now we know what Labour's immigration policy was really about. The "open door" was not simply held ajar in order to admit a fresh workforce that would help to fill gaps in the growing economy. Nor was it just a gesture of hospitality and goodwill to those who were fleeing from repressive or inhospitable regimes in order to seek a better life. Both of those aims would have been credible – if controversial and not thought-through in all their consequences. And so would the longer-term view that dynamic, cosmopolitan societies are generally healthier and more productive than in-bred, isolated ones, or that immigrants who tend to be ambitious for themselves and their families could help to counter the passivity and defeatism that tend to be endemic in the British class system.

But as it turns out, the policy was motivated by something far more radical and fundamental than any of this. The full text of the draft policy paper composed in 2000 by a Home Office research unit – the gist of which had already been made public by a former Labour adviser – was released last week under Freedom of Information rules. Properly understood, it is political dynamite. What it states quite unequivocally was that mass immigration was being encouraged at least as much for "social objectives" as for economic ones. Migration was intended specifically to alter the demographic and cultural pattern of the country: to produce by force majeure the changes in attitude that the Labour government saw itself as representing.

Tony Blair's "forces of conservatism" speech; his improbable presentation of Britain as a "young country"; the advocacy of a multicultural society which would have to reassess its own history, replacing traditional pride with inherited guilt:

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; immigration; importingsocialism; uk
...if politics becomes a replacement for religion by taking upon itself the responsibility for transfiguring human nature then politicians, of all people, become the prophets and the priests. Just at the moment, I can't think of a more absurd idea.

Nor can I.

1 posted on 02/14/2010 4:58:55 AM PST by IbJensen
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To: IbJensen
Just at the moment, I can't think of a more absurd idea.

The over-specialized elites don't think it's an absurd idea. They've convinced themselves it's the solution to all their problems.

2 posted on 02/14/2010 5:08:04 AM PST by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: IbJensen

If the idea was (is) current in Britain in 2000 you can bet your house the same idea is what motivates those who advocate open borders in the US. We should be looking for the smoking gun policy paper here.


3 posted on 02/14/2010 5:18:18 AM PST by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: IbJensen

There’s no doubt left that allowing the Mexican invasion of the late twentieth and early twenty-first centuries is a deliberate move to change our culture.


4 posted on 02/14/2010 5:21:10 AM PST by RoadTest (The entrance of thy words giveth light; it giveth understanding unto the simple. Ps. 119:130)
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To: saganite

“We should be looking for the smoking gun policy paper here.”

Try Robert Pastor. He smokes more than anybody I’ve ever heard of. His name comes up every time you get close to the heart of the matter.

Pastor was Vice Chair of the Independent Task Force on the Future of North America, which is sponsored by the Council on Foreign Relations in association with the Consejo Mexicano de Asuntos Internacionales and the Canadian Council of Chief Executives. [1]

Dr. Pastor has been the subject of heated controversy whereby Jerome Corsi has suggested that he may go down in history as the Father of a North American Union (NAU).

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1748252/posts


5 posted on 02/14/2010 5:29:51 AM PST by RoadTest (The entrance of thy words giveth light; it giveth understanding unto the simple. Ps. 119:130)
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To: IbJensen
What an excellent analysis. Politicians as priests, indeed. So much rings true for our country, and when Edward Kennedy's official papers are made public in the future, I am sure similar motives will be revealed:

... new direction which Left-wing parties were forced to take in the wake of Marxism's collapse. Having lost the great economic argument of the 20th century, the Left had to switch its focus to society itself: if humanity could not be transformed through the redistribution of wealth and the socialist command economy, then it would have to be transfigured by altering social relations....

...the advocacy of a multicultural society which would have to reassess its own history, replacing traditional pride with inherited guilt: all of this could be facilitated by a large influx of migrants whose presence in the population would require the wholesale deconstruction of the country's sense of its own identity.

We are undergoing the "wholesale deconstruction" of our own sense of identity, especially in the West and Southwest.

6 posted on 02/14/2010 5:34:22 AM PST by La Lydia
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To: RoadTest

They’re our “replacements”.


7 posted on 02/14/2010 5:35:21 AM PST by RC one (WHAT!!!!)
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To: IbJensen

Deportation. Let any politician run on that plank and they have my vote. What utter nonsense the phrase,”immigration reform.” Does it even mean anything besides we’ve not bothered enforcing the laws we have today?


8 posted on 02/14/2010 5:44:45 AM PST by wiggen (Never in the history of our great country have the people had less representation than they do today)
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To: RoadTest
...a deliberate move to change our culture...

I think it was just a cynical move of liberals and RINO's. Liberals want more voters and RINO's want to please the left and the immigrants.

9 posted on 02/14/2010 6:00:33 AM PST by VRW Conspirator (Liberal vs. Conservative = The vision of man versus the nature of man.)
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To: wiggen

“Deportation. Let any politician run on that plank and they have my vote. What utter nonsense the phrase,”immigration reform.” Does it even mean anything besides we’ve not bothered enforcing the laws we have today?”

Amen and exactly!


10 posted on 02/14/2010 6:11:14 AM PST by RoadTest (The entrance of thy words giveth light; it giveth understanding unto the simple. Ps. 119:130)
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To: RoadTest

“There’s no doubt left that allowing the Mexican invasion of the late twentieth and early twenty-first centuries is a deliberate move to change our culture.”

And it did!

Much of greater Los Angeles is now a third world hellhole.


11 posted on 02/14/2010 6:13:54 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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To: La Lydia; All

“We are undergoing the “wholesale deconstruction” of our own sense of identity, especially in the West and Southwest. “

Here is an article from a few days ago that I didn’t find listed on FR. A GOOD ONE.

The role illegal aliens played in the mortgage crisis (and continue to play)
http://www.examiner.com/x-35821-Immigration-Reform-Examiner~y2010m2d7-The-role-illegal-aliens-played-in-the-mortgage-crisis-and-continue-to-play

Feb. 2010 - After writing several articles about this country’s mortgage meltdown and the little-talked about role which illegal aliens have played in this crisis, a woman who I will call “Mary” contacted me, as she wanted to expose the fraudulent practices which eventually brought about the disastrous collapse. What follows is a brief interview I conducted with Mary. (I am protecting her identity because she still works in the mortgage business.)

Q) What is your background and who have you worked for?

A) I am in the Mortgage Industry and personally audited thousands of sub prime loans while working as a contractor. The last company I worked for was EMC, previously owned by Bear Stearns so I thought I would share the caveat on these loans.

Q) When my wife and I bought our home, we had to provide a mountain of documentation, including federal tax returns. How have the mortgage lenders allowed illegal aliens to enter into a mortgage loan without the proper documents?

A) The Sub Prime underwriting guidelines had special requirements for, what was called, Foreign Nationals….30% down and full credit package including credit references from their country of origin and a valid Visa. To circumvent this requirement, the applications were marked that the borrower was a US citizen then, regardless if the credit profile did not support such a claim, an underwriter was not allowed to question the application.

This along with use of stolen SS# or use of their American born child’s SS# and lax credit requirements that allowed alternative credit, helped cover the ruse. All required documentation was fraudulent and with the large use of a/k/a’s, information was hard to track.

Q) What did management do when it was discovered that a stolen Social Security number was being used by a borrower?

A) It was not uncommon to find a SS# being used by up to 23 other people or a borrower with 27 a/k/a’s. Management would often clear a loan that you tagged as fraudulent so it wouldn’t be shelved.

Q) What was the worst case you have seen?

A) One borrower stole the SS# of a retiree and took out $3.5 million in loans, turned around and did cash-out refi’s, then fled the country. The retiree was left with ruined credit, $3.5 million in loans and trouble with the IRS. Over 50% of the sub primes were for cash-out refi’s.

Regardless of the loan criteria used to pull random samplings for audits, the majority of the last names were Hispanic. The loans I audited were primarily in CA, NV, AZ, FL, CO, compare those to the states with the highest number of foreclosures & illegal aliens.

Q) What is your opinion on the $750 billion bailout engineered by former Treasurer Hank Paulson and approved by Congress?

A) During the bailout, I called my Congressman and other leadership including Barney Frank and asked if there was a provision within the Bill that prohibited illegal aliens from being bailed-out…..the answer was no. I asked if there was a provision in the Bill that helped homeowners that did not take out sub primes but are faced with losing their home due to the negative impact of sub primes and was told…..no. So in other words, those that committed crimes to obtain the loans will get a helping hand to bail them out, compliments of the US Taxpayer!

Q) Any final thoughts?

A) I cannot tell you how angry I am over this and you are right…..Congress will not talk about it. I have written to mine [Congressman] several times over the last year, yet my only response is their standard form letter. When I call and demand an answer, I have been told someone will get back with me, of course that never happens. Looks like we are picking up where we left off before the bail-out.

If Mary’s observations did not anger you, I am certain that the next bit of information will do the trick.

Of course, we all know that, on October 26, 2001, President Bush signed the USA Patriot Act. However, I would wager to say that almost no one knows that contained in section 326(b) of the USA Patriot Act is a provision that allows US banks to accept Mexican Matricula Consular cards as a valid form of ID for opening bank accounts.

It should be noted that while our President and Congress ordered American banks to recognize these Mexican-issued cards, there is not one Mexican bank which accepts their own government’s Matricula Consular card as a valid form of ID, because the bearer’s identity is basically untraceable.

The following is a list of U.S. banks (both regional and national) and mortgage insurers which are known to offer home loan programs targeted at illegal aliens:

-Bank of America
-Citigroup
-Deutsche Bank AG
-Fifth Third Bancorp
-Genworth Financial Inc.
-J.P. Morgan Chase
-Liberty Financial
-Mortgage Guarantee Insurance Corp.
-Plaza Bank
-Wachovia
-Wells Fargo

So there you have it. Those elected to represent we the American people, decided instead to represent the bankers and allow illegal aliens to borrow money, often using the stolen Social Security numbers of American citizens.This so-called sub-prime mortgage crisis was actually nothing more than a massive case of fraud.

And why not?…The banks who made the loans have lost nothing, because the taxpayers have been forced to bail them out for their risky and even illegal loans.

However, that is not where the story ends.

Russell George, Treasury inspector general, recently told the Dallas Morning News that thousands of illegal aliens have been taking advantage of the $8,000 first-time homebuyer credit included in the $787 billion stimulus bill.

George reports that 1,000 applications contained a taxpayer identification number, commonly used by illegal aliens, have been submitted from the state of Texas alone.

Though illegal aliens are not eligible for the credit, a 2009 Treasury Department investigation revealed claims totaling $20.8 million for the federal program, by non-citizens.
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12 posted on 02/14/2010 9:42:02 AM PST by AuntB (WE are NOT a nation of immigrants! http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/)
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To: IbJensen

Rivers of blood.


13 posted on 02/14/2010 10:34:15 AM PST by Favor Center (Targets Up! Hold hard and favor center!)
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To: IbJensen
Pick up Peter Brimelow's Alien Nation: Common Sense About America's Immigration Disaster or Samuel P. Huntington's Who Are We? The Challenges to America's National Identity
14 posted on 02/14/2010 12:55:39 PM PST by rmlew (Democracy tends to ignore..., threats to its existence because it loathes doing what is needed)
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To: La Lydia

Its an incredibly dangerous thing to do.


15 posted on 02/17/2010 4:11:44 AM PST by Vanders9
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To: IbJensen

Its malignant....a mechanism for tearing out the roots of civilization....


16 posted on 02/17/2010 4:15:14 AM PST by mo
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To: AuntB

“George reports that 1,000 applications contained a taxpayer identification number,...”

How much of that tax credit..gets “kicked” back to politicos and immigrant advocacy organizations?


17 posted on 02/17/2010 4:16:55 AM PST by mo
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