[Monterrosa-24]

But still your quotation is hundreds of years before the final fall of Rome. The Western Empire survived into the 400s because it was still Roman. It fell when the peninsula was flooded with those who did not consider themselves Roman but yet had the defacto status of freemen.

Do we have more and more citizens who do not call themselves Americans?

[Sudetenland]

TRue, but it was prescient in it's statement and it was the fall of the Republic to a series of dictatorial emperors to which he was referring and though the empire continued, it was never the sort of republic it had been.

I was being somewhat cavalier, but it was a combination of a loss of interest in self-government/pre-occupation with hand-outs and the huge influx of non-citizens to do the work that the citizens wouldn't do...sort of sounds familiar doesn't it.

I am once more reminded of how happy I am that I have no children to worry about. I greatly fear for the future of the progeny of those who have.

America is probably lost forever. How do you get a populace addicted to governmental largess to renounce their addiction? Certainly not through education, that is already destroyed and become indoctrination into statism.