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Jewish groups plead for Crist to save life of convicted killer Martin Grossman
Orlando Sentinel ^ | 2/10/2010 | Susan Jacobson

Posted on 02/11/2010 7:57:49 AM PST by goods

Orthodox Jewish groups are trying to persuade Gov. Charlie Crist to spare the life of Martin Grossman, a convicted killer scheduled for execution Tuesday.

National Council of Young Israel, Agudath Israel of America, Orthodox Union, Chabad, Satmar, Rabbinical Alliance of America and the nonprofit Aleph Institute are among 200 organizations asking Crist to grant a 60-day stay of execution to allow a clemency application to be considered. Floridians for Alternatives to the Death Penalty also is trying to get Crist to spare Grossman's life.

Grossman was convicted of shooting Margaret Park, 26, in the head after she found him and a friend at a nature reserve, where they went to fire a gun. Grossman asked Park not to report him because it would have been a violation of his probation on a burglary conviction. There was a struggle, Park drew her gun and Grossman shot her with it.

The Florida Supreme Court this week upheld the sentence.

(Excerpt) Read more at orlandosentinel.com ...


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1 posted on 02/11/2010 7:57:49 AM PST by goods
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To: goods

LOL.

I originally read “Crist” as “Christ” and began to note a strange sense of irony, until I read it again.


2 posted on 02/11/2010 7:59:14 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: goods

they have had 26 years to file for clemency....times up...buh bye...


3 posted on 02/11/2010 8:01:18 AM PST by tatsinfla
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To: SJSAMPLE

haha. very good point regarding Crist/Christ... Jews pleading to Christ...


4 posted on 02/11/2010 8:01:23 AM PST by goods
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To: SJSAMPLE
LOL. I originally read “Crist” as “Christ” and began to note a strange sense of irony, until I read it again.

Then maybe they ought to crucify him...no sympathy here for convicted murderers.

5 posted on 02/11/2010 8:04:37 AM PST by meandog (OWEbummercare: "Arbeit Macht Frei!")
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To: goods

Crist died for your sins.


6 posted on 02/11/2010 8:08:37 AM PST by sinanju
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To: SJSAMPLE

Ok if this guy is an Orthdox Jew then just Stone him.


7 posted on 02/11/2010 8:12:01 AM PST by US Navy Vet
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To: goods

Just for information:

Grossman is mentally handicapped (IQ 77 and other mental problems) and the murder was not ‘premeditated’.

I don’t believe either of those things make a difference, but with today’s goofus legal system, they are reasons to take a look.


8 posted on 02/11/2010 8:15:32 AM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: goods

Yesterday’s thread regarding the same subject;
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2447778/posts


9 posted on 02/11/2010 8:15:46 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: US Navy Vet
Ok if this guy is an Orthdox Jew then just Stone him.

Yeah, lets have us a Rock concert.

10 posted on 02/11/2010 8:16:29 AM PST by shiva
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To: goods

Show him mercy.


11 posted on 02/11/2010 8:25:32 AM PST by Dogbert41
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To: goods

Hang him high.

Why the hell do some religious groups all of sudden feel a need to spare some villain’s life merely do to his religious affiliation?

That sounds pretty bigotted to me.


12 posted on 02/11/2010 8:25:57 AM PST by ZULU (Hey Obama, how DO you pronounce "corpsman"?????)
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To: jjotto

My grandfather used to say, “He knew to do it; he knew NOT to do it”.


13 posted on 02/11/2010 8:29:07 AM PST by GadareneDemoniac
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To: goods

Crist has enough RINO troubles heading into his primary battle. Say goodbye, Grossman.


14 posted on 02/11/2010 8:32:56 AM PST by Oldpuppymax
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To: goods
I'm disappointed with Orthodox Jewish groups. The Torah is clear about the death penalty for murder. Just execute the scum!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find only things evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelogus

15 posted on 02/11/2010 8:35:11 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: jjotto

I do not understand why a crime like this warrants the death penalty, when so many more heinous, terrible crimes go by everyday. It just doesn’t make sense. If this were today, he wouldn’t get the death penalty.


16 posted on 02/11/2010 8:36:39 AM PST by Hildy
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To: GadareneDemoniac

yep


17 posted on 02/11/2010 8:36:58 AM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: goods

If this is what the jury decided this is what he needs.

IMHO, I don’t feel the death penalty should be administered except for premeditated murder for personal gain, but I will defer to the jury.

From what I can see, in FL they put people in jail for years for things I consider accidents (not this) and don’t put people in jail for things they should NEVER get out for. But I guess that happens everywhere.


18 posted on 02/11/2010 8:38:58 AM PST by I still care (A Republic - if you can keep it. - Ben Franklin)
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To: jjotto
Grossman is mentally handicapped (IQ 77 and other mental problems) and the murder was not ‘premeditated’.

The IQ thing (and other mental problems) are a total dodge. It's immaterial what his IQ is, or if he hears voices. He killed somebody with a gun in a public park. It also sounds like he had a criminal history.

Not premeditated carries a lot more weight with me. Normally that would be murder 2, with a life sentence. But in 23 years that issue should have been addressed.

Twenty-three years is enough. Execute him and he'll have no more mental problems.

19 posted on 02/11/2010 8:39:16 AM PST by jimt
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O bull, no Jew has an IQ of 77.


20 posted on 02/11/2010 8:41:12 AM PST by ichabod1 ( I am rolling over in my grave and I am not even dead yet.)
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