Victory — How Quaint an Idea! (We can win the War on Terror, and sooner than you think)

National Review ^ | 02/11/2010 | Victor Davis Hanson

[ClearCase_guy]

Obama never speaks of “victory” — his only goal is to “end” the war.

[tet68]

A Watergate-damaged Nixon administration was unable to honor its commitment to use U.S. airpower to stop renewed Communist aggression.

Because of Democrat obstruction, I would note.

[54skylark]

Here is how you win WOT

Drafting Guys Over 60

New Direction for any war: Send Service Vets over 60!

I am over 60 and the Armed Forces think I’m too old to track down terrorists. You can’t be older than 42 to join the military. They’ve got the whole thing ass-backwards. Instead of sending 18-year olds off to fight, they ought to take us old guys. You shouldn’t be able to join a military unit until you’re at least 35.

For starters, researchers say 18-year-olds think about sex every 10 seconds. Old guys only think about sex a couple of times a day, leaving us more than 28,000 additional seconds per day to concentrate on the enemy.

Young guys haven’t lived long enough to be cranky, and a cranky soldier is a dangerous soldier. ‘My back hurts! I can’t sleep, I’m tired and hungry.’ We are impatient and maybe letting us kill some asshole that desperately deserves it will make us feel better and shut us up for awhile.

An 18-year-old doesn’t even like to get up before 10am. Old guys always get up early to pee, so what the hell. Besides, like I said, I’m tired and can’t sleep and since I’m already up, I may as well be up killing some fanatical son-of-a-bitch.

If captured we couldn’t spill the beans because we’d forget where we put them. In fact, name, rank, and serial number would be a real brainteaser.

Boot camp would be easier for old guys.. We’re used to getting screamed and yelled at and we’re used to soft food. We’ve also developed an appreciation for guns. We’ve been using them for years as an excuse to get out of the house, away from the screaming and yelling.

They could lighten up on the obstacle course however. I’ve been in combat and never saw a single 20-foot wall with rope hanging over the side, nor did I ever do any pushups after completing basic training...

Actually, the running part is kind of a waste of energy, too. I’ve never seen anyone outrun a bullet.

An 18-year-old has the whole world ahead of him. He’s still learning to shave, to start a conversation with a pretty girl. He still hasn’t figured out that a baseball cap has a brim to shade his eyes, not the back of his head.

These are all great reasons to keep our kids at home to learn a little more about life before sending them off into harm’s way.

Let us old guys track down those dirty rotten terrorists. The last thing an enemy would want to see is a couple million pissed off old farts with attitudes and automatic weapons, who know that their best years are already behind them.

HEY!! How about recruiting Women over 50...in menopause!!! You think MEN have attitudes??

Ohhhhhhhhhhhh my God!!! If nothing else, put them on border patrol. They’ll have it secured the first night!

[HiTech RedNeck]

It’s true that there is no single person to surrender on behalf of the extremist Moose, however we can keep the Moose off balance and teach them (if we dare) that significant acts of aggression will cost them territory.

[DannyTN]

• "The first condition of victory: Due to offensive operations in the Middle East and defensive measures at home, it would become almost impossible for an individual or small cadre to pull off another 9/11.
• Second condition: Middle East governments would no longer wish to aid and abet Islamic terrorists.
• Third: Radical Islam would become less successful at channeling Middle Eastern discontents into anti-Western terrorism.

DannyTN's Conditions of Victory

• First, State sponsors of terrorism are eliminated. We have eliminated Afghanistan and Iraq. We need to eliminate Iran and Syria.
• Second, Religious sponsors of terrorism are eliminated. Although the tide seems to have turned against Osama and Al Quaida, it's because of the failure and loss of Muslim life, not because of an internal change in attitude. We need to spy on Mosques and Madras and identify, expose and eliminate terrorism schools.
• Third, Religious freedom is respected in the middle east.
  1. We need an active propaganda campaign for human rights.
  2. We need to eliminate governments that don't respect religious freedoms and have different laws for Muslims than Christians or Jews.
  3. We need to seriously arm Christians and provide intelligence information anywhere there is a Muslim war.
  4. We need to push for public religious debate in the middle east because Islam wouldn't survive it.
• Fourth, every state and every major religious organization in the Middle east recognize Israel's right to exist.
• Fifth, The so-called palistinian refugees are absorbed by middle eastern countries, preferably as far away from Israel as possible.
• Sixth, the Islamic bomb and know how ceases to exist.

[Former MSM Viewer]

Beautifully written essay...

Read it. It offers a positive outcome of our current struggle with radical Islam

[Mach9]

Your ideas are almost as reasonable as Hanson’s. Glad my coffee was finished before I started reading (the laptop’s new).

[DesertConservative]

Well done! :D

[neverdem]

LOL!

[neverdem]

bump & an excellent VDH ping!

[sima_yi]

As I read on another thread today:

"Don't pick a fight with an old guy. He's too old to run, too fragile to take a beating, so he'll probably just kill ya."

[JasonC]

"We are slowly achieving it; the enemy is not"

Correct on most points. The only caveat is Iran. Hanson rightly states that the US could stop them easily, and if we don't it will be because we chose not to, not because we can't.

But if Iran gets nukes and we do nothing to stop it, then the enemy will have achieved a significant operational victory, and one that will be hard to counteract later on. The bill for it may be very high.

[RipSawyer]

A masterpiece LOL! It made me think back five years ago when I was still working with a bunch of young guys. One of them was joking around and asked me what I would do if someone picked a fight with me. I looked him straight in the eye and replied that I am too old to fight and too slow to run so I would simply have to kill him. He never asked me any more questions of that nature.

[Tolik]

 

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[Tolik]

That’s brilliant!!

[Tolik]

Thank you, FRiend

[onedoug]

ping

[garjog]

Great idea. An army of 60 plus. Old guys can get into shape. Plus they have valuable life experience on how to do stuff and work with others.

[garjog]

Excellent analysis. Sounds like you have some kind of expertise.

I know it is un-PC to say, but the best thing would be for these cultures to become Christian. That would require massive missionary efforts. It would be a national security imperative.

Ann had it right on Sept. 13, 2001:

“We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We weren't punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That's war. And this is war. “