Posted on 02/10/2010 9:05:02 AM PST by rogue yam
In response, the (Israeli) ambassador stated that the investigation was classified and that the officer in charge would tell him only that "Ariel has a community of about 20 Messianic Jews, and their leader [Ortiz] has been provoking Jews and Muslims, convincing them to convert ... the police is working to prevent this incident from recurring, but also told me that the Messianic Jews must alter their behavior to prevent extreme incidents in the future."
Christians must stop evangelizing in order to prevent terrorism against them? I don't think that's what the Bible says.
Since when do FReepers take as gospel an arrogant voice of socialism and nihilism?
http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Columnists/Article.aspx?id=168265
...Last year Haaretz highlighted reports accusing the IDF of war crimes which were subsequently proven false. These received massive global media exposure and made a major contribution toward creating the hostile anti-Israeli climate preceding the Goldstone report...
Well, unfortunately, we are told to expect some non-Christians to hate Christians. I just wish the Israeli government would treat Jewish terrorism against Christian Israelis the same way it treats Muslim terrorism against Jewish Israelis.
Are you trying to advance this discussion of a particular alleged terrorist or are you seeking to abet his murderous acts?
They don’t have ideas of freedom of speech and religion like America has.
What is it that you think we are supposed to doubt here?
The problem with the kind of “love letter” that Teitel sent Ortiz is that the Jews he derides as “weak” are going to shrink from his example. They’re going to say “if this is being Jewish I want no part of it.”
As I recall a few years back a guy named “Saul” was doing the same thing, last I heard he was heading to Damascus to take care of some Christians up there...... never heard from again.
May our man Jack here undergo a similar transformation.
Hm, quick to call a Jew a terrorist, but a muslim in the US Army has to commit mass murder before being called one.
Say what?
Apparently this lone whacko doesent like Christian missionaries, not ordinary Christians
.BTW, what if these missionaries tried to convert Muslims in Arabia? I would say their shelf life would be less than one day. Hardly any equivalency between cultures there.
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Whoever is secure in their personal belief in G-d has nothing to fear from evangelicals and missionaries. One believes what one believes. As for messianic Jews, they did not even “convert” away from Judaism; they merely decided on a particular view of Messiah. If such “ultra-orthodox” anti-missionary groups have to resort to bombs and intimidation to preserve the purity of Judaism, then they have already forgotten what Hashem stands for.
That’s OK, Haartz hates observant Jews and religious Christians, too. So this is an enemy-of-my-enemy thing.
“I just wish the Israeli government would treat Jewish terrorism against Christian Israelis the same way it treats Muslim terrorism against Jewish Israelis.”
By giving them a pass? Pardons?
Despite what you believe, the government is very active in stamping this out.
I have many good friends in the Karaite (an allegedly heretical Jewish group, that is really dumped upon) and Messianic types.
I don’t care what they believe, as long as they don’t try to bother me, and 99.99% of Jewish Israelis share this opinion.
My pastor tells me that Christ's mission on Earth is the mission of every Christian in every time.
I believe it is the calling of every Christian to seek to join God's mission on this Earth. Some people are bothered when Christians do this. Twas ever thus. At issue here is what is the legitimate response of those who are bothered by Christians fulfilling their mission.
I don’t see the “legitimate response” being at issue, as no one is defending the terrorist at issue.
The only thing that is apparent is you dislike Jews for declining to accept what you view as a correct religion.
I don’t push my religion on you; as part of a civil society, I would simply like the same courtesy.
Then why aren’t they converting more Muslims to Christ? There are over 1.5 billion Muslims in the world , and less than 15 million Jews. Seems like they got their antenna on wrong .
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