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To: butterdezillion
I believe this is why the DOH refuses to release, to anyone who requests them, the non-certified copies of abbreviated birth certificates as authorized by the Administrative Rules and thus required to be released under UIPA.

Why do you think they care?

I mean, superficially, the records are private, you don't have the right to have them released to you or to the media, so they won't give them to you.

I wouldn't, either.

At a deeper level, you claim that you have discovered an alternate pathway giving you the right to the information. That may be true (although it seems unlikely).

If it IS true, and the statute requires what it appears to forbid, why WOULDN'T the State of Hawaii do what you want?

The first rule of bureaucracy is not to make yourself visible. A good way to become visible is by breaking the law.

Why should the clerk you are dealing with care? As long as the law is in fact on your side, 99.99% of the bureaucrats on Earth would carry that document to your door.

56 posted on 02/08/2010 4:22:03 AM PST by Jim Noble (Hu's the communist?)
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To: Jim Noble

So you aren’t going to read the Admin Rules? You are just going to condescend and talk down to her AS IF you have a clue?

It’s clear you have nothing but an opinion. And we all know about opinions—they are like you. Everyone has one on their backside.

“I wouldn’t, either.

At a deeper level, you claim that you have discovered an alternate pathway giving you the right to the information. That may be true (although it seems unlikely).

If it IS true, and the statute requires what it appears to forbid, why WOULDN’T the State of Hawaii do what you want?

The first rule of bureaucracy is not to make yourself visible. A good way to become visible is by breaking the law.”
BTW, the Department of Health is VERY visible. “


57 posted on 02/08/2010 5:29:43 AM PST by MissTickly
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To: Jim Noble

Why did the Chrysler lawyer give in to Obama? Why did the media? This is Chicago politics. I think these people are fearing for their lives.

And there is a chance that Obama snuck something into his Presidential Order which created the czars’ panel to help Pacific Islanders that made them lose federal funds if they disclosed the records. Linden Joesting, staff attorney at the OIP, gave a cryptic response to John Charlton alluding to the possibility that records couldn’t be released if the release jeopardized federal funding.

All I’m saying is that there are enough red flags that law enforcement should be checking this out. The fact that none of them will stinks to high heaven and should itself be checked out.

I think right now that point that I’m making is unimpeachable.


60 posted on 02/08/2010 5:53:23 AM PST by butterdezillion
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