Posted on 02/07/2010 10:44:14 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
True. But what does that have to do with the aforementioned website?
Affirmative action.
It would not matter to me who is father is at all.
I cannot abide his policies.
Whatever it takes. A legitimate BC should be provided in order to qualify for having ones name on a ballot for public office.
Who cares where Obama was born.
I just want him and his criminal cronies put in jail and their wealth ‘redistributed’ back to the people of this nation they have stolen it from.
I had to provide a LEGAL COPY of my birth certificate to get my driver’s license.
Does BO have a driver’s license?
The list of topics that can be made by anyone, of any political outlook, as to which are wastes of time are, well, legion. In other words why bother being a dolly downer on this one. You and the Glorious Beck both might ignore it, as we all ignore that myriad of legions of things worthless to comment on.
That is, post hoc ergo propter hoc, huius, huius, huius ... the fact that the Glorious Ones deign comment even in Dolly Her Downitude mode on this issue means it is not worthless, and their is some mystery motive engine driving your negativity.
You got a link for this info?
That really doesn’t answer the question that was asked?
Case law is not the only applicable test. Best research source I've found, having studied this issue daily since Aug 2008, is:
And this entry is particularly salient:
http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2009/09/natural-born-citizen-clause-requires.html
Proper Tea Party Attire:
WND can find no listing in the Polk directories to document Dunham and Barack Obama Sr. ever living at the same address.
As WND previously reported, according to an affidavit from private investigator Jorge Baro, the neighbor who has lived at 6075 Kalanianaole Highway since before Obama was born had no recollection of the family next door having a black child born to a white mother.
Very likely, the neighbor, Beatrice Arakaki, did not recall the Obama family because the primary residents were the grandparents, the Dunhams.
At most, Ann Dunham Obama and her son lived at 6085 Kalanianaole Highway only a few days, and there is no evidence Barack Obama Sr. ever lived there, despite the address having been listed in the Honolulu newspapers as the residence of the parents.
After Dunham left for Seattle, Barack Obama Sr. likely would have lived at his 11th Avenue address.
Polk listing for Stanley and Madelyn Dunham
A search of the Polk's Directory of Honolulu for 1961-1962 indicates 6085 Kalanianaole Highway was being rented by the grandparents. Madelyn L. Dunham is listed as a loan interviewer and escrow agent at the Bank of Hawaii, and Stanley A. Dunham is listed as a manager with Pratt Furniture.
Polk listing for Ann Obama
In a separate listing, Ann S. Obama, Obama's mother, is identified as a student living at the 6085 Kalanianaole Highway address; Barack H. Obama, her husband, is listed as a student living at 625 11th Avenue.
As WND previously reported, a Honolulu title search documented 6085 Kalanianaole Highway was purchased in 1958 by Orland Scott Lefforge, a University of Hawaii professor, and his wife/companion Thelma Young, who remained owners into the 1970s.
Honolulu title records
The Polk Directory shows Lefforge and Young living at 6085 Kalanianaole Highway in 1963, not when they purchased the home in 1958.
Agreed
They are using the 1957 date because it is prior to statehood. There is no evidence to back that claim.
Quite the contrary. You assume my reading and comprehension skills are the same as yours. That is your mistake.
You are refusing to grasp even the fundamental concept the website is based on the mention of the grand jury in the 5th Amendment.
I understand quite well that the website is based on that. It is blatantly obvious.
That , however, does not mean that it (the website) is accepted in a court of law as a legally convened Grand Jury under the direction of a Judge in a court of law.
Yet I still applaud the efforts by those who created, maintain, and those members of that website.
If you had bothered to review the information provided you would read our founding fathers purposely created The Bill of Rights to vest powers only to the people including the grand jury noted only in the 5th Amendment but not in the body of the Constitution listing the powers granted to the three branches of government so as to provide the people a check and balance against a corrupt government.
You should consider going back to grammar school, or ask Obama to appoint you to a legal czar position for that kind of legal razzmataz.
Instead you make a ludicrous remark by referencing a website in the 5th Amendment.
Again, you are confusing yourself. I didn't reference a website in the 5th Amendment. I think you made a Freudian slip.
Doing so only reveals your ignorance of your understanding the premise upon which the American Grand website was formed and your refusal to learn.
I understand completely WHY the website was formed. It is clearly explained on the HOME page of that website. I spent much more time reviewing it than you can imagine, and today is not the first time I have been to that website. I think it contains a great body of reference, and again, I support what they are trying to do. More power to them. POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!!!
Your statements become more pathetic with each post.
Mere 'projection' on your part.
After all is said and done, here is one of the most important lines on the website, and PROOF that what I claim is EXACTLY TRUE.
QUOTED FROM AMERICANGRANDJURY.COM: " To date we have yet to have a single Judge willing to hear the Presentments and prosecute Obama for Treason and Fraud."
OR a driver's license, or a JOB in the United States.
Come to think of it, those are already requirements. At least the places I have worked, and the last time I had to get a new driver's license because I allowed mine to lapse.
Actually it was bogus for BHO Sr, but not for Stanley Ann or her parents, who were living there, but did not own it, in '61. The owner, a UofH proff, didn't start living there until '63. Based on Honolulu City directories for the years in question. They even show Stanley Ann living there, but never BHO Sr.
How did the DoH know which were legitimate and which were not. The early 60s BC form had no block or other indication of legitimacy. Just mother's maiden name, mothers address, father's name, occupations for both of them.
I think the paper, or the DoH was making an assumption of legitimacy. Now if there was no father listed, that's another matter, and they could not list those.
Funny then that the Hawaiian Lands program's website, just as official as the DoH website, had detailed instructions on how to obtain a certified copy of the long form, until last June. That would be 2009, not 1981. They prefer the long form, *because it has more information*, especially on the parents.
Just because it's been repeated a lot, doesn't make it true. Besides which the DoH says they do maintain the original.
Several years ago I read where many states were going *away* from the short form, because with memory, including disk memory, getting cheap, and compression algorithms getting practical, they could afford to store digital images of the originals, rather than relying on an "abstract" from a database.
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