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To: tsprague1
He won’t show it because Hawaii no longer releases them as Certified COLB’s. either does Washington and California. They haven’t since 1981. This has been said many, many times.

Funny then that the Hawaiian Lands program's website, just as official as the DoH website, had detailed instructions on how to obtain a certified copy of the long form, until last June. That would be 2009, not 1981. They prefer the long form, *because it has more information*, especially on the parents.

Just because it's been repeated a lot, doesn't make it true. Besides which the DoH says they do maintain the original.

Several years ago I read where many states were going *away* from the short form, because with memory, including disk memory, getting cheap, and compression algorithms getting practical, they could afford to store digital images of the originals, rather than relying on an "abstract" from a database.

160 posted on 02/08/2010 10:23:09 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato

The poster is either a lying n00b or just very ill informed. I have personally, on long distance with the Dept of Vital Records in HI been told that if a legal request comes in for a certified copy of the actual vault long form, it will be provided, albeit it takes weeks to get it to the requesting party because of actually physically locating and copying properly.


161 posted on 02/08/2010 10:28:52 PM PST by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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