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1 posted on 02/06/2010 6:02:35 AM PST by reaganaut1
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The slavers in Haiti never wanted the slaves to learn to read and write, nor even to be converted to Christianity.

Hence, they kept their African religions and knew next to nothing about what was happening on the next plantation, let alone the outside world.

By contrast, in the mid-19th century free blacks in Jamaica were penning a petition to Queen Victoria—ie., they could read and write, knew about the world, and were led by a pastor (whose photo shows him wearing glasses).

A world of difference...


2 posted on 02/06/2010 6:06:45 AM PST by CondorFlight (I)
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...Its followers believe that their destinies are controlled by hundreds of capricious spirits who must be propitiated through voodoo ceremonies...

My ex-wife (a Christian) believed that my rock albums contained evil spirits and refused to allow them in our house.

3 posted on 02/06/2010 6:08:35 AM PST by FReepaholic (Pork chops are most satisfying. Mmmmmm. Dangle them from the ceiling)
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Your link to the entire article doesn’t work, it is only an excerpt. This one does
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704533204575047163435348660.html


4 posted on 02/06/2010 6:14:21 AM PST by La Lydia
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The African culture was to live in a land of plenty and when the game ran out to move on. There is no work ethic culture.

The haitians havent changed they have no work ethic, they wait for the US or someone else to do any work that gets done.


5 posted on 02/06/2010 6:14:40 AM PST by Venturer
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8 posted on 02/06/2010 6:27:05 AM PST by bushpilot1
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9 posted on 02/06/2010 6:28:43 AM PST by bushpilot1
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10 posted on 02/06/2010 6:29:34 AM PST by bushpilot1
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Scarlet O’Hara’s grandmother escaped from Haiti after the revolution and settled in Savannah, Ga.


14 posted on 02/06/2010 6:32:31 AM PST by bushpilot1
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When you live in a culture ruled by spirits & demons, you are the ultimate VICTIM. Hard work & entrepreneurship are a waste of time. Better to sacrifice a chicken & by a lotto ticket.

It seems evil to me to maintain this culture thru continual aid.

25 posted on 02/06/2010 6:53:20 AM PST by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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Something else that is never discussed is the African cultural “value” of getting over on someone else. For Americans, this is best illustrated in the Brer Rabbit fables. The “moral” of the story was never to do what is right but to get over on whomever you’re dealing with. I read this great essay years ago (wish I could remember where) about the way this paradigm still affects sub-Saharan Africa and Haiti. Those is charge will say and do whatever they have to in order to secure money, food or what-have-you, then to use it only for personal gain. They get over on both the givers and on the intended recipients. This is a mark of pride for them and those still starving will accept it instead of rising up.I wish I could be clearer but I explain it better speaking.


27 posted on 02/06/2010 6:57:50 AM PST by constitutiongirl ("Nietzsche was stupid and abnormal."---Leo Tolstoy)
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No mention of Robertson?


30 posted on 02/06/2010 7:42:44 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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Haiti’s problems start from its very origins under the French.

To begin with, there is a shortage of arable land, so the vast majority of crops were for export, not food. So from the very beginning, slaves were only fed the bare minimum of food, mostly dried fish and whatever crop was available. Many slaves died of overwork and starvation.

For this reason, that Haiti was pretty much a “death camp”. When slaves were purchased in Africa, only the troublesome and violent slaves were sent to Haiti. The “good” slaves were sent to America.

So when the slaves finally revolted in Haiti, they had no hesitation whatever in butchering their overlords. But from that point, the “death camp” was run by the slaves, at least in so far as the contentious French, British, and American powers would let them. For years thereafter, Haiti was a pawn in their games.

The only honest government in Haiti’s history was the US Marine Corps.


31 posted on 02/06/2010 7:56:16 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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32 posted on 02/06/2010 7:59:58 AM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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Voodoo (Haiti), Sanaeria & Arara (Cuba) and Candomble (Brazil) all have their roots in the slaves taken from the Nigerian Yoruba tribe. The Yoruba practice the original form of the shamanic religion using a pantheon of “orishas” (spirit guardian) which the Caribbean and Brazilian variants have adapted to the Catholic saints. This pantheon does not number in the hundreds, it numbers a dozen or so.

You cannot understand the retrograde power of voodoo in Haiti unless you understand the reign of repressive terror under “Papa Doc” Duvalier and his death squads the Ton Ton Macoute. Like many suppressive regimes actively and passively supported by the us (Bautista’s Cuba, many others), we did precious little to encourage a democratic government, rather, we saw any regime that was anti-communist to be in our interest to support, particular if the repression and poverty led to a groundswell of support for reform, even reforms of the sort we fought our Revolution from Britain over.

Instead of helping democratic institutions grow in the 3rd World, our foreign policy has an embarrassing record taking the easy way out and providing many repressive regimes with arms and police training (School of the Americas). This is not a popular message on this forum, but it IS history and a large part of the reason why we have leftist governments erupting in South America and much of the developing world.

Marxism doesn’t take root in the West in its revolutionary guise (they use surrogate causes like environmentalism, climate, etc.) because our standard of living does not give the Marxists ammunition via the misery index. Conservatives are blind on this issue and will never understand how we, the good guys, can be so hated in the world. Where you don’t have misery, you don’t have revolution, period.


33 posted on 02/06/2010 8:30:33 AM PST by Yollopoliuhqui (consciousness is a heads up display)
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The daughter-in-law, and her children, of President Stenio Vincent had to flee Haiti when he left office. She lived in the lap of luxury during her father-in-law’s reign, but she wound up as my aunt’s maid in NY. We all called her Mrs. Vincent. I never new what her first name was. Anyway, she eventually had to be let go because she was scaring my cousins half to death with her voodoo talk.


34 posted on 02/06/2010 8:39:34 AM PST by goldi (')
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Voodoo is a symptom of an underlying disability.


39 posted on 02/06/2010 8:58:56 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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83 posted on 02/07/2010 7:17:20 AM PST by Albion Wilde (Liberals love the poor so much they came up w/ a plan to create millions more of them. - Ann Coulter)
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