Posted on 02/06/2010 1:39:41 AM PST by BIOCHEMKY
“An amazing compilation of sourceless propaganda. Your bigoted bias is showing.”
Call it as you see it.
I made NOTHING of this up.
“Also, I find the date of the donation to be very telling.”
Yep. The perfect time to go unnoticed by almost everyone.
“Quite recently, there were several postings about the Executive Order #12425 dealing with Constitutional IMMUNITY for Interpol. One of the postings on FR is here.”
Post#41 on this thread posted on Saturday, February 06, 2010 6:31:42 AM by pyx (Rule#1.The LEFT lies.Rule#2.See Rule#1. IF THE LEFT CONTROLS THE LANGUAGE, IT CONTROLS THE ARGUMENT.)
“You may be well aware, none-the-less heads up to post #41 above.”
I am sorry to admit that I wasn’t aware of the exact content of Executive Order #12425 until early this morning. Now that I am, the information (and the intent I am sure) is CHILLING!
“My father keeps reminding me that “We still have the U.S. military.””
After listening to General Casey weeks ago, I’m not so sure ;-)
Thank you for the history on Irving Kristol and his turn to and support of neoconservatism.
I have followed the political ideology of his son, William Kristol for several years now.
Thanks again.
Nice bio of the Saudi prince and we’ve all seen the Percy Sutton NY1 interview but do you have anything at all new or any actual proof?
Thanks Phil. I read this thread earlier and meant to ping everyone to it.
Also, have read RaceBannon’s account before. Interesting stuff!
See my homepage. The link is Khalid Al-Mansour (original name: Don Warden), financial adviser to the Saudis. He is the link between the Saudis and Black Muslim radicals in the US.
As for how Obama got hooked into the Black Muslim network and came to the attention of Mansour/Warden, look for links between Obama and Black Muslim radicals in the US, like Rev Jeremiah Wright (friend of Louis Farrakhan). Obama's childhood mentor Frank Davis, who before coming to Hawaii had been living in Chicago and had probably still had contacts with black radicals in Chicago who could "look after" young Obama.
I’ve independently verified a lot of what you said. Nevertheless, you need to have and maintain links to sources.
One thing that your links don’t cover is the fact that Obama did not attend Columbia university, he attended Columbia college, a sort of alternative style school affiliated with Columbia. During his time at Columbia college, he left the country to go to Pakistan. No one knows when he returned, or how long he stayed in Pakistan. It is entirely possible that Obama received credit for his period in Pakistan that was applied to his graduation. The school is a pass/fail system, so graduating without honors is standard, you either graduate or you don’t.
FR old hands may have seen the Percy Sutton interview, but this is a nice compilation for the newbies and part-time lurkers.
Thanks for the info.
Bump for later
There was an article on Free Republic a few months back about Obama and an alias that may or may not be link to one of the several SSNs he used traveled to Eastern Europe in the late 80’s. I tried find this article again, I don’t think there was much evidence to support it. However, with all of his past under lock and key, I guess he just wants us to let our imaginations run wild, or simply believe his “autobiography”.
“The link is Khalid Al-Mansour (original name: Don Warden), financial adviser to the Saudis. He is the link between the Saudis and Black Muslim radicals in the US.”
1979-1981 Professor Roger Boesche, Occidental Los Angeles, Obama’s intellectual political mentor; Obama’s first public speech was at Occidental, sponsored by the Students for Economic Democracy, a branch of the Campaign for Economic Democracy, chaired by Radical Tom Hayden. In “Dreams from My Father: Obama wrote of his two years at Occidental College, “I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists and punk rock performance poets.”
At Columbia: Both Obama and 1960s “Weathermen” bomber Ayers admit to attending anti-American rallies that took place at Columbia in the early 1980s. Ayers was studying for his M.Ed in Early Childhood Education at Bank Street College down the street from Columbia University in NYC at the same time Obama was completing his B.A. in Political Science at Columbia University.
In “Dreams From My Father”, Obama reveals that while at Columbia he “went to socialist conferences …in Brooklyn.”
“Then, after transferring to Columbia University two years later, he [Obama] found that “political discussions, the kind that at Occidental had once seemed so intense and purposeful,” took on the flavor of the “socialist conferences” he sometimes attended at New York’s [Columbia’s] Coopers Union.”
October 20, 1981 – Brinks robbery in which several members of the Weather Underground stole over $1 million from a Brinks armored car near Nyack, New York. The robbers murdered 2 police officers and 1 Brinks guard. Several others were wounded.
http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/a_timeline_of_crime_for_obamas_buddy_william_ayers/
Also, I do not have a link for the next comment, but I will try to find where I originally read it and post later. In the newspaper account of the Brinks job that the Weather Underground pulled in 1981 in NYC, witnesses describe a black youth who sounds alot like Obama.
Remember, at this point in time (fall 1981) Obama is attending Columbia Univ. in NYC in the poli sci Dept., he’s being mentored by Zbigniew Brzezinski, professor at Columbia Univ. (Brzezinski is former National Security Advisor under Pres. Carter; Brzezinski is currently Obama’s foreign policy advisor) and by his own admission in “Dreams Obama is attending radical socialist political rallies and gatherings in the Coopers Union (the student union hall at Columbia) and in Brooklyn.
Also, one of the female Weathermen terrorists that attempted to pull off the Brinks Job, one of those who got caught, was the best friend of Bill Ayers’ wife and fellow Weathermen terrorist, Bernardine Dorn. Ayers and Dorn took over the guardianship of the arrested terrorist’s daughter on an indefinite basis following the botched Brinks Job and the female terrorists subsequent arrest.
Columbia college is one of those schools where you design your own curriculum and sign a contract. So, Obama could have simply gotten credit for attending some jihadi training camp for all we know, and called it political science.
The other thing that we know is that Barry Soetoro became Barack Obama at this time.
Enjoy this Facebook page, which spreads the word about Obama’s SAUDI motivation:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Mommy-Why-Does-Obama-Help-Terrorists/278088301870?ref=mf
“As far as can be seen at this time, the roots of the Obama candidacy go back to a project begun by Zbigniew Brzezinski and his National Security Council subordinate, Professor Samuel Huntington of Harvard, in the early 1980s.”
http://www.rense.com/general80/s0pa.htm
Read the following article. It explains a lot about Obama and his relationship to Zbigniew Brzezinski, professor at Columbia University in New York while Obama attended there (1981-1983) while Brzezinski was also serving as Pres. Carter’s former National Security Advisor, and was the head of the Institute on Communist Affairs, where he was located from 1960 to 1989.
Brzezinski is currently Obama’s foreign policy advisor.
Behind The Copied Speeches -
Governor Deval Patrick Is Brzezinski’s Spare Obama
By Webster G. Tarpley
2-19-08
http://www.rense.com/general80/s0pa.htm
The recent discovery by various functionaries of the Clinton campaign that Obama habitually lifts entire passages from the speeches of Massachusetts Governor Deval Patrick points far beyond the issue of alleged plagiarism and gets us close to the central issue about Obama: the Illinois Senator is a synthetic Manchurian candidate who has been concocted over a period of two decades or more by a political intelligence faction associated with the Zbigniew Brzezinski clan, and Zbig’s friends of the “color revolutions” faction at the National Endowment for Democracy and the Soros milieu. The striking fact revealed by the discovery that Obama and Patrick parrot the same type of utopian and messianic platitudes is not just that these two mellifluous demagogues habitually swap chunks of their speeches. It is rather that both of them are the product of the same process of programming, training, and indoctrination one might well say brainwashing on the part of the Brzezinski faction. They are both from the same stable, so to speak. The reason that there are two of them is that each is a backup for the other within the framework of the same overall intelligence community project, which is to bring the techniques of postmodern coup, otherwise known as the CIA color revolution or people power putsch, into this country in order to seize power in a postmodern coup d’état. Both Obama and Patrick can be viewed as the dummies through which the ventriloquist Brzezinski speaks.
It is of course ironic that Obama, the professional word-monger, deals in words he has filched elsewhere. With no achievements, no record, no commitments, no promises, no loyalties, and no track record, Obama’s stock in trade is oratory. How revealing that his only capability, his words, have been purloined.
Here is an example, widely quoted on the Internet, of parallel passages spouted by Obama and by Patrick:
Obama: “Don’t tell me words don’t matter. ‘I have a dream’ just words? ‘We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal’ just words? ‘We have nothing to fear but fear itself’ just words? Just speeches?”
Patrick: “’We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal’ just words? ‘We have nothing to fear but fear itself’ just words? ‘Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country.’ Just words? ‘I have a dream’ just words?”
The passages are interesting since they amount to a pre-packaged defense against the most obvious objection to the two politicians in question: they are short on concrete policy proposals, and long on vapid rhetoric. Since it would appear that Patrick made his remarks first, there is little doubt that Obama is indeed a mimic of Patrick. This discovery, however, is not new. Over the past year, the New York Times Magazine, the Boston Globe, and the Boston Phoenix have all published articles pointing to the fact that the babblings of these two politicians are astonishingly similar, to the point of being practically identical. The Boston Phoenix article is included below. What these passages reveal is that both Obama and Patrick are indeed Manchurian candidates, and that both are reciting from the same intelligence community print out. They have memorized their lines from the same prompter. This points to the fact that both of these candidates come out of a laboratory, the same laboratory, and not out of any normal political process is the average person would understand that. Their rhetorical style and repertoire of themes are coherent with the same covert operation, in which they are both cogs.
As far as can be seen at this time, the roots of the Obama candidacy go back to a project begun by Zbigniew Brzezinski and his National Security Council subordinate, Professor Samuel Huntington of Harvard, in the early 1980s. This was the immediate aftermath of the catastrophic Carter administration, which Zbigniew Brzezinski had helped to wreck with the help of his fellow Trilateral Commission member Paul Adolph Volcker, whom Carter had appointed as head of the Federal Reserve System. For Brzezinski and the Trilateralists, the Carter administration had been a great success, one destined to be repeated. The Soviets had been enticed to enter Afghanistan, where they were destined to undergo a humiliating defeat in a long and genocidal war. The Shah of Iran had been ousted and replaced with Khomeini, thus wrecking the Iranian economy and permitting a second phony oil crisis. In Carter’s State of the Union address for 1980, he had promulgated the so-called Carter Doctrine, namely that the United States would maintain supremacy in the Persian Gulf against all comers. This became the framework for the first Gulf War and the current Iraq war, not to mention possible future attacks on Iran. The entire US economy was well on the road to de-regulation, and the de-industrialization of this country had been largely carried out. Carter had also left the office of the presidency far weaker and far more hated than it was when he found it.
At this point, Brzezinski, Huntington and their Trilateral associates were already looking ahead towards the prospect of a mass political upsurge which they expected to emerge sometime between 2010 and 2030 in our own time today. They were already busily scheming to find ways to use this next political upsurge to further their favorite cause, that of totalitarian government in the United States. Huntington wrote in his American Politics: The Promise of Disharmony (1981):
“If the periodicity of the past prevails, a major sustained creedal passion period will occur in the second and third decades of the twenty-first century. the oscillations among the responses could intensify in such a way as to threaten to destroy both ideals and institutions. Yet the continued presence of deeply felt moralistic sentiments among major groups in American society could continue to ensure weak and divided government, devoid of authority and unable to deal satisfactorily with the economic, social and foreign challenges confronting the nation. Intensification of this conflict between history and progress could give rise to increasing frustration and increasingly violent oscillations between moralism and cynicism. This situation could lead to a two-phase dialectic involving intensified efforts to reform government, followed by intensified frustration when those efforts produce not progress in a liberal- democratic direction, but obstacles to meeting perceived functional needs. The weakening of government in an effort to reform it could lead eventually to strong demands for the replacement of the weakened and ineffective institutions by more authoritarian structures more effectively designed to meet historical needs. Given the perversity of reform, moralistic extremism in the pursuit of liberal democracy could generate a strong tide toward authoritarian efficiency.” (p. 232)
Huntington, like his model Carl Schmitt, has always been looking for ways to institute a dictatorship. Obama is a means to that end.
It is evident that during these years, Brzezinski, Huntington, and company began the process of recruiting and indoctrinating promising young people who could, after a suitable process of training and indoctrination, be turned into political operatives to be deployed decades later, in the midst of a crisis which Brzezinski and Huntington were able to foresee, to ensure an outcome agreeable to the ruling finance oligarchy. There is every reason to think that Obama and Patrick are to examples of the assortment of candidates and political operatives which the Trilateralists began assembling at that time. This is the deeper reason why Obama and Patrick spout the identical platitudes of utopian reform, the abolition of partisan strife, and the healing of our “broken souls” by the touch of a false messiah.
This process was nothing new for Brzezinski and Huntington. Around the time of the Watergate crisis and the ouster of Nixon, they had begun planning to field a Manchurian candidate who would carry the program of the Trilateral Commission into the 1976 election campaign. After the disgrace of Nixon, it was evident that a Democrat would be needed. In addition, the Trilateralists wanted an outsider, untainted by the Watergate scandal of the corruption of Washington. They decided to select a southern governor with vague populist overtones. As Brzezinski boasts in his memoir Power and Principle, Carter was selected because he was more interested in international affairs. But at the same time, the immense investment in money, time, and work in assembling a political machine, developing position papers, purchasing and corrupting journalists and television personalities, preparing vote fraud options in battleground states like New York and Ohio, etc., etc., was much too great to let it depend on one person alone. What if Carter had another nervous breakdown? What if he got hit by a car? What if he were indicted? For these weighty but obvious reasons, the Trilateral planners decided that they would need a spare candidate, to be held in reserve and to be deployed in case their primary choice proved unviable or unworkable. As Brzezinski also points out, the spare Carter was Governor Reuben Askew of the state of Florida, who also had presidential ambitions. But without the financial backing of David Rockefeller and the rest of the Trilateral machine, Askew’s ambitions were destined to remain a dead letter. But the point is that there was a spare candidate always available to be rushed into the breach.
There are indications that Obama was recruited by Brzezinski or his immediate circles in 1982-1983, when Obama was a student at Columbia University in New York City. The main problem that arises in investigating this issue is the obsessive secrecy on the part of Obama concerning this phase of his life. As New York Times reporter Janny Scott wrote last year:
“Barack Obama does not say much about his years in New York City. The time he spent as an undergraduate at Columbia College and then working in Manhattan in the early 1980s surfaces only fleetingly in his memoir. In the book, he casts himself as a solitary wanderer in the metropolis, the outsider searching for a way to ‘make myself of some use.’”
“He barely mentions Columbia, training ground for the elite, where he transferred in his junior year, majoring in political science and international relations and writing his thesis on Soviet nuclear disarmament. He dismisses in one sentence his first community organizing job - work he went on to do in Chicago - though a former supervisor remembers him as ‘a star performer.’”
“Yet he declined repeated requests to talk about his New York years, release his Columbia transcript or identify even a single fellow student, co-worker, roommate or friend from those years.”
“He doesn’t remember the names of a lot of people in his life,” said Ben LaBolt, a campaign spokesman.
“Mr. Obama has, of course, done plenty of remembering. His 1995 memoir, “Dreams from My Father,” weighs in at more than 450 pages. But he also exercised his writer’s prerogative to decide what to include or leave out. Now, as he presents himself to voters, a look at his years in New York - other people’s accounts and his own - suggest not only what he was like back then but how he chooses to be seen now.”
“In a long profile of Mr. Obama in a Columbia alumni magazine in 2005, in which his Columbia years occupied just two paragraphs, he called that time ‘an intense period of study.’”
“I spent a lot of time in the library. I didn’t socialize that much. I was like a monk,” he was quoted as saying.” “Obama’s Account of New York Years Often Differs from What Others Say,” New York Times, October 30, 2007.
What is Obama hiding about his years at Columbia? Why the obsessive secrecy? It is likely that this is the decisive moment of his life, when he comes under the guidance of his protector and patron, Zbigniew. “Soviet nuclear disarmament” is a thesis title that has Zbigniew Brzezinski written all over it. Zbig was at this time the head of the Institute on Communist Affairs, where he was located from 1960 to 1989, apart from his time in the Carter White House. There is therefore a strong prima facie circumstantial case that Obama entered Brzezinski’s orbit between 1982 and 1983 at Columbia. (Persons who knew Obama at Columbia during those years are urged to contact the author if they have information bearing on thiese questions.)
Today, the fact that Obama’s and Patrick’s utopian verbiage is basically identical points to the fact that an arrangement similar to the Carter-Askew one is in effect. This is not the place to illustrate the parallel lives of these two subjects. We can only mention the fact that they both come from relatively humble circumstances, both grew up as did Bill Clinton as fatherless African-American boys, both were selected to attend upscale prep schools, and both attended law schools. They are profiles of remarkably similar, to the point of being almost congruent. Everything points, in short, to the fact that they are both products whipped up by the same intelligence community operation. They have both been synthesized, groomed, indoctrinated, and programmed with the same demagogic political operation in view. As individuals, they may or may not be aware of all that has been done with and to them. For their part, voters have every right to be disturbed by the robot-like similarities of the sounds coming out of the mouths of these two operatives. They are both playing back the same tape. As time goes on, it should prove possible to reconstruct in much detail the specific sessions, drills, and other procedures which have been used to inculcate the ability to speak in this strange and singular manner. But even now, the lesson for voters ought to be clear: it would be very unwise to put the Manchurian puppet candidate Obama, the creature of Zbigniew Brzezinski and his gang, into the White House.
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