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Palin electrifies crowd in Salina.
http://cjonline.com/news/legislature/2010-02-05/palin_electrifies_salina_crowd ^ | Friday February 5, 2010 | Barbara Hollingsworth

Posted on 02/05/2010 8:10:31 PM PST by Bigtigermike

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To: Finny

All too true! But where is a case of a strong nation whose leaders are bowing to Islam at every turn while fighting them overseas? And even in Afghanistan Gen McChrystal allows our soldiers to be killed or wounded rather than the enemy; same with Mullen, same with Casey, the despicable POS. Gates sees nothing wrong with these insane ROE. It goes all the way to the top—Barry, and before him, GB; Bill Klinton, & GHWB. How many of our best & brightest are in the brig because they killed the enemy before he killed them? In the case of a Navy SEAL, he is accused of slapping a prisoner (one of those who horrendously murdered the 4 contractors in Iraq.) This SEAL now may even be tried in an International Court! Tell me this isn’t madness, and try to find another country who has ever so insanely eaten its own. And continues to tear our country apart here at home.


281 posted on 02/07/2010 11:01:13 AM PST by molybdenum ( Now go do the right thing!------Dr Laura)
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To: jla; Virginia Ridgerunner
Jla? Is this the same Jla who used to post Palin's photo in almost every Sarah Palin thread with the '2012' inscription indicating: 'Sarah for president in 2012?'  Is this the same Jla who valiantly and courageously defended Sarah from gratuitous and vicious attacks by the Palin haters, and extolled her virtues and accomplishments?  Wasn't Jla the one who used to say that Sarah was like Ronald Reagan and had only praise for her? Didn't Jla treat Sarah with respect and called her the next Madam President?

His recent posts are posts made by an angry individual who not only belittles Sarah, but also insults her supporters with the same sickening and misguided passion of the Sarah haters.

If this is the same poster who only a few weeks ago was part of the “Palin Fringe” (as he calls us now), and throws insults our way, insisting we are “not very smart or really knowledgeable” and are “ill-mannered, uncouth, mental slobs,”  I have no respect for him because he doesn't have credibility.  He accuses us of the same ill-manner that he is afflicted with – insulting Palin supporters with such contempt demonstrates that he isn't very smart himself, and certainly not a gentleman.

He has gone from being a Sarah fanatic to being a Sarah basher. Sarah hasn't done anything to merit such hostility from anyone in the so called ex-Palin fringe. Though I don't agree with Palin's endorsement of McCain, nor her decision to campaign for him, I don't believe in Jla's insistence that she is being hypocritical, but rather that she is doing it out of loyalty - something Jla has demonstrated that he knows nothing about it.

I guess he will soon be joining the chorus of trash-flappers in his denunciation of Sarah and her family - though I warn you Jla, I'm not afraid, and I usually reply in kind.

282 posted on 02/07/2010 12:39:46 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Victoria Delsoul

Yes, that would be the very same jla...!


283 posted on 02/07/2010 1:17:02 PM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: hattend

I think the question is, if Alaska is so flus with oil and gas revenues that they can afford to send this kind of money to EACH AND EVERY resident of the state, then why are ANY taxes paid by residents of the other 49 states going to it?


284 posted on 02/07/2010 1:44:42 PM PST by Bob J
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To: Bob J

I thought the gas taxes you pay were state and federal. The taxes you pay stay in your state or go to the general fund. They don’t go to Alaska.

The gas and oil tax revenue collected from oil companies and paid into Alaska coffers were mandated by state Constitution to revenue share with the people of Alaska when the pipeline was proposed.

Alaska takes care of their own. The lower 49 could probably do the same thing with their state resources but for some reason choose not to.

I guess I don’t understand the question.


285 posted on 02/07/2010 2:08:46 PM PST by hattend (Mary Jo, this one's for you! (Thank you, Massachusetts - welcome back to the union))
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To: Darkwolf377
[Me] My point is that nobody can show "presidential timber" before he's president.

You can believe that, it's you're right, but I don't buy it at all.

It's your right to disagree, as you pointed out, but it's a little hard not to buy it: it's a tautology. Nobody's "presidential" before he's president. Beforehand, he's a fine fellow, he's a candidate, good wood, etc. -- but it is the decision of the People that makes him "president" and gives him the chance to show he's "presidential". Some of the examples I gave, like Harry Truman (and I'd add Chester Arthur to that list), were of people whom the voters would not have elected even a few years before their inauguration, who "grew into" the office.

With all the others, we're just guessing and so are vulnerable to disappointment. As with George W. Bush.

286 posted on 02/07/2010 2:20:52 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: molybdenum
Tell me this isn’t madness, and try to find another country who has ever so insanely eaten its own. And continues to tear our country apart here at home.

I'm reading a biography of Julius Caesar. His dealings with the Gauls were rather sterner stuff than we've seen out of any U.S. administration.

His purposes aren't ours, of course, but there is a way to deal with people who are fanatically dedicated to killing you that doesn't involve kissing the ring of an Arabian king.

287 posted on 02/07/2010 2:34:01 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus

Sure there are ways. But our dhimmi leaders cringe at the thought of using them. They can’t even protect our borders.


288 posted on 02/07/2010 2:40:20 PM PST by molybdenum ( Now go do the right thing!------Dr Laura)
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To: molybdenum
I won't tell you it isn't madness. I'll just say with confidence that it isn't the first time a country has rotted from within in similar ways and had leaders that betrayed its own people, and it won't be the last. I'll bet any real historian would be able to give you examples of where this kind of thing has happened before in history. The Founders certainly understood the tendencies of human nature in designing government for a free society, and designed the Constitution as best they could to foil what they knew would be the inevitable threat, at least, of the deterioration of our free society. They understood at the time that it would be a job of constant vigilance with the need for blood to be spilled from time to time. The specifics may be "new," but the general picture is as old as man and many would say (I think including the Founders) as predictable.

My main point: approaching this as if it's something new or unheard of is a mistake. It feels new because it's the first time it's happened to us.

The first time this really hit home for me was when I read a book by Taylor Caldwell called "A Pillar of Iron." It's about Marcus Tulius Cicero and the decay of the Roman Empire. It's historical fiction, and Caldwell researched her history thoroughly, so historically, it is accurate. I first read it about 30 years ago. The cultural parallels between Rome and the U.S. were mind-boggling. It was an eye-opener for me as a young person (in my early 20s). In my ignorance, I'd thought what was happening in the U.S. was new. It wasn't. It wasn't then, and it isn't now. To approach it as if it was is a mistake.

289 posted on 02/07/2010 7:48:11 PM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent.)
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To: Finny
I read quite a few of Caldwell's books years ago and most all had the same theme, Western culture in a downward spiral and especially here in America; an individual who sensed what was wrong, who was a patriot and a Christian, and he or she tried to right the wrong but was fought by his own people. Some had a good ending (hero survives), others die trying. Did you ever read her autobio, "Growing Up Tough"? She was amazing. Died not too long ago, in her 90s. My favorite of all that I read was titled "There was a Time".

I might have read "Pillor of Iron", if not, then I will. Oh, and "Captains and Kings"--loosely based on the Kennedy dynasty (or would-be dynasty)...starting with the patriarch as a boy, coming to the land of the free. Quite a story.

But people turning on their fellow Americans of course is nothing new; what I wonder is if any other country in the world ever allowed an invasion of foreigners to the point where the natives were displaced and outnumbered, bankrupting the treasuries, and at the same time allowing the sworn enemy (terrorists & their supporters) to influence every aspect of our laws & culture. Helping to cut our throats, so to speak. I have heard a radio talker say no nation on earth has ever done this , because it amounts to national suicide.

290 posted on 02/07/2010 8:28:48 PM PST by molybdenum ( Now go do the right thing!------Dr Laura)
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