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To: Travis McGee; SJackson; Ghost of Philip Marlowe; Rummyfan; La Lydia; silverleaf; grobdriver; ...
"Radical Islam is an insane murder cult; moderate Islam is its Trojan Horse in the West. "

I have had a very hard time explaining this to libs. They FEEL that the 'extremist Muslims' are not the norm of Islam.
They feel the extremist twist Islam into their belief. They insist the extreme stuff in the Quran isn't much different then some of the extreme stuff in the Bible and it is only a 'few' that take that stuff literally.

then they call me a Nazi because they claim and this is the libs main point:
'you can not condemn a whole group for what a few do'

I point out statistics that show it is the majority of Muslims that agree with this. They claim the statistics are bias.... bla bla bla.

One of my main points that I like to make is that Islam isn’t a religion it is an ideology based on a hypothetical theocracy with the return of the caliphate. Islam’s main or over all goal is for Islam to dominate the world and the only way they can do that is for the return of the Caliphate. Libs get lost on this point, but without it the pieces of the puzzle of what Islam is doesn’t fit.

I am at a loss. any suggestions?

39 posted on 02/08/2010 2:26:01 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: Steve Van Doorn

Where it comes to libs, I try to only discuss really important pressing matters like the Weather.


40 posted on 02/08/2010 2:29:33 PM PST by hennie pennie
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To: Steve Van Doorn

Just because all the rats in your house aren’t trying to gnaw the fingers and toes off of your baby doesn’t mean you should tolerate rats in your house. It is the nature of the rats, and you can’t watch all of them all of the time to determine whether they are friendly, moderate, reliable rats, or the bad ones.


41 posted on 02/08/2010 2:31:59 PM PST by La Lydia
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To: Steve Van Doorn

Use this comparison. Most Germans during WW2 were just basic, apolitical good folk trying to live a life.

It didn’t matter, because the Nazis set the agenda, and kept the ordinary good folk in line via a number of mechanisms, including fear.

Just like Islam, another insane ideology camouflaged as a religion.


42 posted on 02/08/2010 2:42:31 PM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

Perhaps you should quit wasting your time talking to libs. They are, without exception, indoctrinated know-nothings.


45 posted on 02/08/2010 4:30:37 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

Three items that really opened my eyes...

1. Myers

http://www.carlisle.army.mil/USAWC/Parameters/06winter/win-ess.htm

2. Coughlin

http://www.strategycenter.net/docLib/20080107_Coughlin_ExtremistJihad.pdf

3. Spencer

http://www.jihadwatch.org/

I have come to the conclusion that Islam is the greatest anti-truth, anti-freedom, anti-individual, anti-life collective in the history of humanity.

Of all of my rants on this forum about everything else, Islam will be the greatest threat going forward into the future to any and all that I love.


47 posted on 02/08/2010 7:26:12 PM PST by PGalt
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To: Steve Van Doorn
One of my main points that I like to make is that Islam isn’t a religion it is an ideology based on a hypothetical theocracy with the return of the caliphate. Islam’s main or over all goal is for Islam to dominate the world and the only way they can do that is for the return of the Caliphate. Libs get lost on this point, but without it the pieces of the puzzle of what Islam is doesn’t fit...

They are a religion in the sense that the KKK was a religion...or the Nazis were a religion.

As you said, it's an ideological movement...with a religious veneer. Asking a lib to understand that is futile.

53 posted on 02/08/2010 8:47:53 PM PST by gogeo ("Every one has a right to be an idiot. He abuses the privilege!" Groucho Marx)
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To: Steve Van Doorn
I am at a loss. any suggestions? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Don't waste your time. Ignorance is not something that can be defeated through fact , logic or truth. Such is the difference between the quick and the dead.

Some must be lost.Nothing can be done about it.

Seek those of like sentiment and knowledge, establish community,let the unwise perish.

55 posted on 02/08/2010 9:32:33 PM PST by Candor7 (((The effective weapons against Oba- Fascism are ridicule, derision , truth (.Member NRA)))
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To: Steve Van Doorn
Easy! You need to use the Q’uran. First, know that their so-called prophet claimed that every single word was directly from God and could never ever change. Therefore, Muslims are stuck with this outdated, sixth-century self-serving screed which ORDERS believers to kill those who do not accept the “religion.” They are ORDERED to overthrow all other governments. It promises heaven to anyone who kills Islam's enemies, and especially Jews. Look on jihadwatch.org for some key quotes. But know this violence is dogma for every Muslim. They are not permitted to associate with non-believers (except for taqqiya-lying to further the cause;, they are expressly not permitted to have loyalty to any government except the worldwide totalitarian government/religion of Islam. That's why the pretender-in-chief refuses to salute the flag. And that's why Congress must investigate and declare that the Constitution is not intended to protect a movement that intends to overthrow the freedom of its citizens.
63 posted on 02/09/2010 6:44:46 AM PST by Missouri gal
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