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To: Mr. Silverback
There is no comparison between Christianity and these movements of hate.

Love? Or have you forgotten Torquemada? Or the 30-years War?

(No one expects the Spanish Inquisition!)

And I know your response, that those who did that weren't following the precepts of Christianity. So? Neither is Osama and his terrorist ilk following mainstream Islam, either.

101 posted on 02/05/2010 4:13:51 AM PST by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: gogogodzilla
Don't forget...

The forced Christianity conversions in Norway by Harold bluetooth in 975

As to earlier questions about WWGWD? (what would George Washington do) Here are some questions to ask yourself...

“Do not make an image or any likeness of what is in the heavens above...” Why do we have statues of these people who have died are are now in the heavens above? How many statues of Washington are there?

“Do not swear falsely by the name of the LORD...” How many have taken this oath?

I, XXX XXX, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will administer justice without respect to persons, and do equal right to the poor and to the rich, and that I will faithfully and impartially discharge and perform all the duties incumbent upon me as XXX under the Constitution and laws of the United States. So help me God.

I, AB, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.

I, [name], do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God

How many of those people took that oath lightly? How many of those took it incincerely? Washington did during the Whiskey Rebellion.

“Do not steal.”

Again... Whiskey Rebellion and the Whiskey tax, don't forget who was a large producer of booze and had a financial stake in the enforcement of the tax.

“Do not murder”

That includes redcoats, indians, and muzzies

“Do not commit adultery.”

What would he say about Jefferson and Sally Hemings?

“Do not covet your neighbor's wife”

There goes the free market. If i didn't like the guys BMW downstairs, i wouldn't work harder at getting a promotion and earn more money. If i didn't see attractive women i wouldn't workout as hard as i do to get their attention. I guess we need to go to burkas and christian socialism like General Feng Yu-Hsiang tried in china.

113 posted on 02/05/2010 7:51:11 AM PST by melkor
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To: gogogodzilla; Petronski; Grizzled Bear

There’s plenty of stuff the Prophet Muhammad did (and documented in the Koran) that was supposedly done by the will of Allah.

Besides, so many in the Islamic world act as if Osama IS maistream.

Why is there such a huge effort to convince Christians, Jews and other non-Muslims that Islam is a peaceful, tolerant, kind, respectful religion, but there is no such direct effort to convey the same messages into the Mosques and the Arab Muslim world; especially to those Muslims in Gaza, Afghanistan, Indonesia, Pakistan, Nigeria, Tajikistan, the West Bank, etc.? In the same breath, why are Christian churches, Christian worship and Christian preaching banned in so many Islamic nations if Islam is so tolerant of all faiths?

Where are the Muslim world’s media television, talk-show hosts’, news people, Islamic experts’ and roaming Imams’ and clerics’ voices with the message that people should not listen to Osama bin Laden, Al-Qaeda, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad, Hamas and other Muslims who use terrorism. Why aren’t they saying that the terrorist interpretations of the Koran and the Prophet’s teachings are all wrong?

If the Terrorists and the Islamic Fundamentalists have ‘hijacked’ Islam to further their own agenda and are not following the Koran; why haven’t the clerics and Imams issued a fatwa (religious decree) in full view of Muslims everywhere; as set forth in Islamic law and the Koran, for those who have decried the ‘true’ faith and edicts of Islam? Does anyone remember the author Salman Rushdie? They didn’t waste anytime putting a price on his head and all he did is write a book that broke Islamic Law.

Why hasn’t the Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC); who represents nearly one-fifth of the world’s population, named Bin laden directly and condemned him and other terrorist organizations as apostates to the Muslim Religion? Better yet, if in truth Islam is a religion that prohibits the murder and killing of the innocent, why haven’t Muslims everywhere; including the OIC, condemned the bombing of Disco’s, Pizzeria’s, or the killing of civilians and of school children in Israel?

If Jihad, by definition does not include the concept of a violent ‘Holy War’, why do so many Islamic clerics and followers of the Muslim religion keep using it for justification of their killing of other people of other faiths or nations? Can millions of readers of the Koran have it that wrong?

Pardon my ignorance of the Koran, but if a Catholic Priest did a ‘such-and-such’ terrible deed, the Bishops, the Cardinals, and the Pope would all condemn the actions and excommunicate the offender. Why is there no such action against the terrorists who (according to all the Islamic clergy and American and Muslim experts who are ‘educating’ the American public to Islam) have violated the Koran?

Finally, can the Muslims have it both ways? Either the Koran is specific or it is not. Either the plethora of Islamic terrorists organizations are following the literal edicts of the Koran and the Sunan, or they are apostates that must be destroyed by other Muslims with even more vengeance - that which is extended to non-believers.

Which way is it?


150 posted on 02/06/2010 12:32:05 PM PST by Ultra Sonic 007 (To view the FR@Alabama ping list, click on my profile!)
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