“...14’ Combat Shotguns...”
Not interested - won’t fit inside my truck.
I wonder if these will be used mainly for breaching doors.
“We’re from the government and we’re here to help!”
If 14 inch shotgun barrells are government approved for their agents then we all should be able to have one if we want.
Not breaking any new ground here. Elliot Ness was a Treasury Agent you know. Notwithstanding the impression left by Robert Stack, their weapon of choice was shotguns.
Anybody got a picture of Tubbs with that shorty pump he
carried on Miami Vice?
Hmph! 14’? Ok, I know what y’all meant. It’s just boys and their toys. Not exactly sure what a 14” barrel would do for them. Maybe more convenient for entry, but more likely to get someone killed due to lack of barrel control. The majority of the Feds that are weapons qualified (even Secret Service) are not as proficient as might be expected.
It rather begs the question of why every Federal agency out there seems to need a police/military force. I never really thought about this until I noticed (20 years ago), that there were folks from the Department of Agriculture and Department of Education (!?!?!?) carrying concealed weapons on my aircraft. Over the years it became more common. I had to ask why the Department of Agriculture needs folks carrying concealed weapons on an aircraft, and was told it had something to do with Food Stamps (true). I was never able to get an answer as to why the Department of Education needed to be armed, but apparently I was not on a “need to know” basis.
Not surprised that any federal agency is into guns. It’s cool, and mostly guys run agencies. So besides the fact that they’re Feds, and they can, you don’t want to be the only agency that doesn’t have weapons. You’d be a bureaucratic wuss. I suspect they all have heat by now.
14 feet, huh.
Nice swap to the goose barrel; knock ‘em outta the sky at 100 yeards!
Boycott any company that enters into such a contract with the devil.
I’m not sure this is unusual.
The IRS has security personnel, and dedicated Marshals and Agents that are intended to protect IRS Revenue Officers during contentious activities, or activities with particularly belligerent tax debtors. It is my understanding that it is not completely unusual for a Revenue Officer to meet with some resistance.
It is within the IRS’s authority to seize property for failure to pay large tax debts (sometimes it is justified) — and the IRS won’t send some poor accountant by himself to seize a house ... they’ll send him with armed escorts. Whether the weapons are provided by the IRS, or whether those personnel are typically employed by the US Marshals or FBI, I don’t know. I would figure at least some of the personnel are employed by the IRS.
SnakeDoc
Why must the IRS exist?
From a decade ago:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.usa.misc/browse_thread/thread/89bc92a954f94133/e6fc95666898fcff?hl=en&q=irssic
Most folks who have not worked with a Long arm in vehicles don't really understand. Its why the M4 currently is below optimum barrel length for best ballistics. Same for shorter barrel shotguns, but it doesn't matter so much since a shotgun is trash past 100 yards anyway (and iffy at 100).
Given the choice between a short barreled shotgun or a machine pistol or carbine; I will take the shotgun any day. Total length should not be over 28 to 30 inches (go sideways through a standard inside door) and have a magazine that goes to the end of the barrel. You can do this with an 18 inch barrel but you have to short the stock. A 14 inch barrel lets you full stock the gun (a must with a 10 or 12 gauge) and still keep the overall length down.
MY 2 cents.
Check out this article I got from my BIL earlier today.
Yeah, but are they going to use steel shot on me? I wouldn’t want some buzzard to die of lead poisoning feasting on my rotting corpse.
The business end of "liberal compassion".
O.K....I’ll buy a cannon!