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To: Fresh Wind
The guy in the video says that when the accelerator is stuck, that if you pump the brakes, you lose the brakes. Why? He goes on to say DON'T turn off the engine because without the engine there's no power steering. Right. But why no braking with the engine still running?

In the video, when he hits the brakes the car slows down sharply, even with the gas on the floor, but he lets off the brake for his “don't pump” part.

I've tried this experiment myself from about 60 mph. My car (actually, it's a minivan with drum brakes in the rear) slowed down quickly. After slowing sharply I went on my way. I plan to repeat my experiment and stop all the way plus test the “don't pump” theory as well.

—regards

12 posted on 02/03/2010 6:12:10 AM PST by libertylover (The problem with Obama is not that his skin is too black, it's that his ideas are too RED.)
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To: libertylover
In the video, when he hits the brakes the car slows down sharply, even with the gas on the floor, but he lets off the brake for his “don't pump” part.

I don't think Consumer Reports would fake this. That being said, with anti-lock brakes, you are not supposed to pump the brakes, since the system is doing that for you.

If the system fails because you pumped the brakes, then that is a serious design flaw.

13 posted on 02/03/2010 7:01:36 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (The townhalls were going great until the oPods showed up.)
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To: libertylover
The guy in the video says that when the accelerator is stuck, that if you pump the brakes, you lose the brakes. Why?

He doesn't say why. He just says that it happens. You can see the brake fail alert on the dashboard.

In the video, when he hits the brakes the car slows down sharply, even with the gas on the floor, but he lets off the brake for his “don't pump” part.

Obviously, the video has been edited. You don't see him pumping, but you see the brakes in a failure mode as a result. You have to let off on the brakes when you pump, that's what pumping means. You see the car slowing somewhat before the brakes fail, and he says that's not enough to stop the car. He claims that once the brakes go into their failure mode, they are totally ineffective.

Unless your minivan is a Toyota, your experiment might be meaningless.

There may very well be two problems that augment each other. There's the initial acceleration problem, and then there's the brake failure. The first may well be mechanical, the second is almost certainly software.

18 posted on 02/03/2010 10:07:40 AM PST by Fresh Wind ("...a whip of political correctness strangles their voice"-Vaclav Klaus on GW skeptics)
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