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To: RoadGumby

What’s Christian about Catholicism, have I missed something? I believe in God and Jesus as His Son, not in Mary the Queen of the Universe, reincarnated, many times.


15 posted on 02/02/2010 11:52:05 AM PST by bethybabes69 (Between you, and whatever you call God, there is no authority, only an illusion of it.)
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To: bethybabes69
I believe in God and Jesus as His Son, not in Mary the Queen of the Universe, reincarnated, many times.

Um, Catholics don't believe in the reincarnation of Mary. You are sadly misinformed.

21 posted on 02/02/2010 11:59:09 AM PST by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: bethybabes69
What’s Christian about Catholicism, have I missed something?

All of it, actually.

not in Mary the Queen of the Universe, reincarnated, many times

We don't believe in any kind of reincarnation, sorry. Guess that's one of the things you "missed".

25 posted on 02/02/2010 12:02:16 PM PST by Campion ("President Barack Obama" is an anagram for "An Arab-backed imposter")
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To: bethybabes69

Whether or not you agree that the Pope is ‘Gods Representative’ here on earth (I do not), his message is correct. Gay friendly laws are just plain WRONG. And if he chooses to spread views that are correct, then I will more than welcome his voice, not tell him to STFU.


26 posted on 02/02/2010 12:02:31 PM PST by RoadGumby (For God so loved the world)
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To: bethybabes69

“What’s Christian about Catholicism, have I missed something?”

Do you think Catholics aren’t Christian?


31 posted on 02/02/2010 12:06:17 PM PST by bronxville
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To: bethybabes69

#23 didn’t mention Catholics just Pagans.

Do you think Catholics aren’t Christian?


39 posted on 02/02/2010 12:13:21 PM PST by bronxville
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To: bethybabes69

You wrote:

“What’s Christian about Catholicism, have I missed something?”

Apparently you’ve missed everything.

“I believe in God and Jesus as His Son, not in Mary the Queen of the Universe, reincarnated, many times.”

What Catholic believes Mary has been reincarnated once let alone many times?

I oppose a number of things in this world, but I always know what it is I oppose and why I oppose it. You might want to figure those things out for yourself.


66 posted on 02/02/2010 12:57:52 PM PST by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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To: bethybabes69
What’s Christian about Catholicism, have I missed something?

Jesus is the head of the Catholic Church, has been for over 2000 years. Just ask the Holy Spirit.

67 posted on 02/02/2010 1:00:45 PM PST by pbear8 (Climate change is a fraud like Obama)
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To: bethybabes69
What’s Christian about Catholicism, have I missed something?

Just amazing.

78 posted on 02/02/2010 1:19:15 PM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: bethybabes69

I think you’re confusing Catholics and Hindus. There’s a difference.


142 posted on 02/02/2010 8:28:40 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: bethybabes69

“What’s Christian about Catholicism, have I missed something?....”
Yup. You have apparently missed out on about 2000 years of Christian history.


143 posted on 02/02/2010 8:51:33 PM PST by rogator
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To: bethybabes69
Catholicism is Christianity. That's not to say that non-Catholics are not Christians, but their faith is derived from the Catholic Faith.
144 posted on 02/02/2010 9:07:32 PM PST by B Knotts (Calvin Coolidge Republican)
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To: bethybabes69
What’s Christian about Catholicism, have I missed something? I believe in God and Jesus as His Son, not in Mary the Queen of the Universe, reincarnated, many times.

Catholics also believe in God and Jesus the Son and the Holy Spirit. They embrace the core doctrines of normal Christianity, as formalized in the four ecumenical creeds.

Some of them are also, in the uncouth but apt phrase, "gettin' a little on the side," and cultivate a parallel devotion to the suffering mother goddess. I'll let God sort that conundrum out. After all, more than 80% of American Christians also participate in the cult of Caesar worship, offering in his temples the hearts, minds, and souls of their children. At least the Catholic Christians saw through that racket 150+ years ago, and built a magnificent parallel Christian school system.

146 posted on 02/03/2010 2:31:22 AM PST by RJR_fan (Christians need to reclaim and excel in the genre of science fiction.)
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To: bethybabes69
"What’s Christian about Catholicism, have I missed something? I believe in God and Jesus as His Son, not in Mary the Queen of the Universe, reincarnated, many times.

Buahahaha, that's too funny. No Catholics don't believe in reincarnation. My kids are even afraid to even do yoga for Pete's sake. I don't know what the teachers are saying, but I never knew Yoga was bad. They don't like it for even being associated with reincarnation.

While every Catholic has a different relationship and perspective towards The Blessed Mother, in general, we understand her significance in God's plan for salvation. She is a gift, one of many gifts from God. God gave the amazing example of a "perfect woman" in Jesus' mother. As a woman who grew up in an age where the "perfect woman" was presented as a pot smoking sexpot "10", I now know how important that good role model is. The world decieves us, but God reminds us that the perfect woman is not Bo Derek, Britney Spears, or Paris Hilton. She is the woman who is humble and obedient to God, and although she sufferred like no other woman could have sufferred, she remained faithfull. The role of a good woman in society is essential. It can make or break families and generations. I promise you that any woman who has the spiritual formation that honors Mary, will be a dedicated and loving wife and mother, no matter what hardships some. I see it every day.

We believe Mary to be "the woman clothed with the sun," the one who God said would crush the head of the serpent in Gen. 3:15. Because she is such a danger to satan, satan tried to kill her even after the Savior was born (Rev. 12:13). The angel Gabriel called Mary, "full of Grace", and we do the same.

She is the spiritual mother of all Christians who continues to glorify God in our spiritual battles.

Catholics know that to God, the most important aspect of our Christianity is love. Our love for God, and his gifts to us, should not be confused with "veneration". I hope your fear of veneration, doesn't interfere with your love for others.

Catholics clearly know it is highly offensive to God to worship for example "Pachamama" (mother earth) etc. That is different to holding those dedicated to God, and those who gave testimony for God, in high esteem. That doesn't mean we worship them. Our souls are eternal, and we believe that those who died for God continue the spiritual battle fighting for God's kingdom. We ask them to pray for us, just like you would a loved one who passed away, unless you believe souls are dead in the dirt?

Our spiritual Mother is good, and "the Lord is with her". She should not be treated like some kind of Buddha statue. I hope it's not against your beliefs if I pray for you. May the Holy Spirit to enlighten us and give us discernment.

147 posted on 02/03/2010 3:29:34 AM PST by mgist
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To: bethybabes69

On Catholic:

Do you know the meaning?

Ignatius, disciple of John, used catholic in 107 AD, so did Polycarp the martyr and the Council of Nicea.

On our latter statement:

Good try. A verse comes to mind... I will put emnity between you and the woman.

You dishonor his mother; All generations will call her blessed.

You disparage who God chose to make the Word flesh... the tabernacle of Our Lord? God does everything, allows everything, for a reason. You disrespect his mother. God didn’t do a Melchizedek (as in a reference that he seems to come from nowhere... it’s all in the name), re: Christ for a reason.

Look up gebirah, as in David’s mother; Read Isaiah, Micah, Ruth, Jeremiah. After that re-read the Wedding Feast at Cana and Revelation 12.

As far as your reincarnated meme, Do you also claim the epic of Gilgamesh for Moses?

God bless you.


154 posted on 02/03/2010 7:17:47 AM PST by AliVeritas (IStolen from the best site ever: http://directorblue.blogspot.com/)
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To: bethybabes69

“I believe in God and Jesus as His Son...”

So do Catholics; therefore, they must be Christians, too.

That your beliefs vis a vis the Blessed Virgin Mary are not congruent with those of Catholics makes you a non-Catholic Christian.

However, to deny, in a snit about the dogma surrounding the BVM, the Christianity of Catholics puts your own christianity in serious doubt.

I will pray to Mary (but not worship her) to intercede with her Divine Son that your heart and mind may be opened.


155 posted on 02/03/2010 8:43:41 AM PST by paterfamilias
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To: bethybabes69
What’s Christian about Catholicism, have I missed something?

Obviously. Christianity IS Catholicism; if you are not Catholic then you are following a church of men, most of which developed in the last 500 years according to greed and personal ambition.

I believe in God and Jesus as His Son

A subordinationalist? Are you LDS or are you JW?

not in Mary the Queen of the Universe, reincarnated, many times.

And that, at least is a good and Scriptural thing. Neither do we Christians.

157 posted on 02/03/2010 6:21:12 PM PST by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: bethybabes69

How many people do you know of ascended to heaven (We Catholics believe Mary did Ascend)? What son whom loved his mother would not weight her request with high value?
Catholics do not consider Mary a God, but rather one whom has the ear of God and our Lord Jesus (one in the same, along with the holy spirit).
Just as the various visions of heaven spoke of in the bible God has many at his table do you not believe those by his side are not the saints and prophets?
Catholics ask for their intersession and assistance in prayers not to pledge a misguided allegiance to them as though they were God, but rather conduits to their special God given graces.

1CR 12:28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.


166 posted on 03/23/2010 5:17:27 PM PDT by jafojeffsurf (Return to the Constitution)
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