“Israel and the UK have had homosexuals serving in the IDF for years now, with no loss of military readiness.”
I beg to differ. Not sure if you’ve ever served, but our military is far superior to those of Europe. We have by far the most well trained and highly skilled military units in the worlds. Why in the world would someone want to introduce open homosexuality into the barrack, showers, and sleeping quarters unless they were determined to undermine unit cohesion. Something no one has ever been able to answer is this: if open homosexuals should be allowed to shower with other nude males, then are we going to allow normal red-blooded male soldiers to shower with nude women? Why or why not?
Something no one has ever been able to answer is this: if open homosexuals should be allowed to shower with other nude males, then are we going to allow normal red-blooded male soldiers to shower with nude women? Why or why not?
or what about all of our trangendered folk, who are men but feel like they are women, and want to shower with the ladies?
no doubt our military will rank right up there with Italy and Netherlands after this
I'm Israeli and I have served. I don't want to get into the kind of chest-thumpin "my army is better than yours" claptrap, but I don't think most people think of the Israeli Defence Forces as being wimpy or poorly trained -- despite the fact that homosexuals serve openly in elite units. I've never heard of a male soldier being raped by another soldier in Israel -- and I imagine that would make the news. When you're surrounded by a billion people who want you dead, you don't have the luxury of turning away any loyal soldier capable of aiming a rifle in the right direction.
At first it was homos in the privacy of a bedroom. Now, it is in our parks, bus stations, parades, schools, workplace etc etc. At first it was just the gays; now it is the gays, lesbians, bi-sexuals, transgendered, bestiality types... the list grows on.
Once they allow fags to openly serve in the military, it will be another stepping stone.... the transgendered freaks will complain they are being discriminated against. Soon we will have "dudes" running around in female service skirts and having their own lists of problems. Then we will have to worry about whether "its" can serve in combat arms billets; women can't can some it that had an attachadictomy? Then there will be hetero males getting married to cash in on "family" benefits so they don't have to live in the barraks (the increase in BAH/COMRATS will cause shortfalls and cuts elsewhere).
Sounds like good order and discipline to me. /sarc
Plus, everyone in Israel has to serve, so it doesnt matter their sexuality.
And from my friend who was in the 82nd, the two gay people he knew did not think being gay was the most important thing in their life. They did not want to flaunt it, and I would bet the majority of gay soldiers dont want to flaunt it. It is gay Hollywood that wants to flaunt it.