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South Bend police probe handling of foot chase (K-9 bites cop, cop shoots K-9, handler attacks cop
Southbendtribune.com ^ | 02/01/2010 | Southbendtribune.com

Posted on 02/01/2010 7:17:02 PM PST by The Magical Mischief Tour

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To: DJ MacWoW; The Magical Mischief Tour
I would bet that the K-9 will be sent for retraining.

I'm thinking that all the human officers involved could use some retraining too.

Think about it. Officer #1, the K9 handler released his dog into a situation where another officer is doing what would predictably appear to the dog to be fleeing in the same direction that the dog is being sent to catch someone. Officer #2, the shoot-to-miss specialist, figures the smart thing to do is to shoot Officer Dog -- maybe it was smart or maybe it wasn't, we don't know enough about the circumstances to be sure (though I suspect that immediately lying face-down on the ground would have been safer and more effective) -- but we do know he missed, and we have a pretty good idea he didn't know his backstop when he took the shot (and the K9 handler may well have been in the general line of fire). With Officer Dog now predictably attacking the guy who shot at him, who he already thought was a criminal and is now sure is a criminal, Officer #1 figures the smart thing to do is to start attacking Officer #2, thus removing any trace of doubt from Officer Dog's mind that Officer #2 is a dangerous criminal who must be taken down.

Officers #3 and #4 come upon the scene of Officers #1 and #2 slugging it out and Officer Dog responding as he'd been trained to respond to someone slugging it out with his handler, and decide the smart thing to do is to pile onto the slugfest while Officer Dog is still unrestrained, figuring Officer Dog would . . . well I don't think their figuring process had even started, when they went ahead and tackled Officers #1 and #2, and once again, Officer Dog responded as he'd been trained to do to anyone attacking his handler.

I say Officer Dog deserves a nice vacation at a beach resort and lots of doggie biscuits, before coming back to do a refresher course to try to untangle the tremendous confusion that Officers #1, #2, #3, and #4 have planted in his little doggie mind.

21 posted on 02/01/2010 7:51:32 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Or maybe the Dog was smarter than the cops and figured out who the bad guys were... would not be the first time.


22 posted on 02/01/2010 7:54:08 PM PST by Deagle
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To: Alas Babylon!

Me either. See my post #21. I’m not sure how police dogs are trained to handle a suspect who has given up, and followed the human officer’s pretty standard orders to lie down on the ground, face down, hands behind head, but I would think they’re trained to stop actually attacking and just stand on or right next to the suspect, poised to strike again if the suspect moves. If so, police officers should be trained to immediately assume that pose when a police dog is mistakenly attacking them, as long as it’s safe to do so given the specifics of the situation (and it sounds like it would have been in this case).


23 posted on 02/01/2010 7:57:41 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Actually the dog started biting cop 3 and 4 while they had the perp on the ground. And I think you’re right, they all need obedience school. :-)


24 posted on 02/01/2010 8:00:04 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Pefectly understandable.

Those poor officers are exposed to drugs and drug tainted money day in, and day out.

The dog was just attacking a bunch of perps in funny costumes, who reeked of drugs.

WARNING: as a civilian, if YOUR money (like 90% of American currency) has been detected as tainted by Officer Canine, the above will not apply to you.


25 posted on 02/01/2010 8:00:14 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (I think not, therefore I don't exist!)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
WOW I thought CommieCrates had exclusive ownership rights to circular firing squad exhibitions.!
26 posted on 02/01/2010 8:01:27 PM PST by J Edgar
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To: GovernmentShrinker
Not that it's all clear that he's at fault, but he must be one very confused dog right now, when it comes to issues of telling the bad guys from the good guys, whom to bite, etc.

Ever wonder if perhaps the dog DID know who the bad guys were?

27 posted on 02/01/2010 8:09:30 PM PST by PAR35
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
... were all policies and procedures followed correctly," Trent said.

Does this mean there there is a "policy or procedure" for an officer to follow when shooting a police K9?

28 posted on 02/01/2010 8:23:40 PM PST by RobinOfKingston (Democrats, the party of evil. Republicans, the party of stupid.)
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To: Oztrich Boy

And one wonders where Reno 911 gets its scripts.


29 posted on 02/01/2010 8:24:31 PM PST by Deaf Smith
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Easily explained: The perp who wrecked the car and was being chased was wearing a police uniform, too. ;^)


30 posted on 02/01/2010 8:32:40 PM PST by budwiesest (It's that girl from Alaska, again.)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

I’m siding with the dog.

He probably bit all the right people.


31 posted on 02/01/2010 8:36:58 PM PST by UnwashedPeasant (Don't nuke me, bro)
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To: tubebender

If a copy shoots at me you can bet your sweet bippee I’m gonna bite his a$$.

If a brother cop shoots at my police dog I’m gonna bite his a$$ too.

Idiots.


32 posted on 02/01/2010 9:03:51 PM PST by happydogx2 (Old memories are, well, old. It's better to make new ones then re-live the past.)
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To: tubebender

I’ll take the dog.


33 posted on 02/01/2010 9:07:59 PM PST by SouthTexas (Exterminate the rats!)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
I worked with a lot of K9's in my day as an officer. But never even came close to getting bit by one of the dogs during a foot chase or fight with a bad guy.

The closest I came was I was helping the K9 Officer with some training one night. In the morning when we got off work, I put on the same jacket I had been wearing during the training.
I went walking past the squad-room and said good night to everyone.
As I put my hand on the door-nob to open it, there was a GS dog on my back. He gave a little growl. And I cried for the K9 Officer.

I never wore that coat to work again. <;8*)

ED

34 posted on 02/01/2010 9:22:06 PM PST by husky ed (FOX NEWS ALERT "Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead" THIS HAS BEEN A FOX NEWS ALERT)
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To: ApplegateRanch; MeekOneGOP; Conspiracy Guy; DocRock; King Prout; Darksheare; OSHA; martin_fierro; ..
I didn't know that Quentin Tarantino was remaking The Keystone Kops.


35 posted on 02/02/2010 12:47:19 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (Don't feed the trolls.)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour; Slings and Arrows
I didn't know that Quentin Tarantino was remaking The Keystone Kops.

Where's Leslie Nielson when you need him?


36 posted on 02/02/2010 1:20:41 AM PST by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality.)
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To: dragnet2; Slings and Arrows
never had to shoot a dog...Only had to spay a dog one time he said...

I hope it was his own dog. If not, the owner must have been pretty testy if the mailman spayed his prize bitch.

37 posted on 02/02/2010 3:14:47 AM PST by TheOldLady (We'll remember in November.)
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To: TheOldLady

USPS training must be better than I thought.


38 posted on 02/02/2010 3:29:41 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (Don't feed the trolls.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

:-D


39 posted on 02/02/2010 3:50:24 AM PST by TheOldLady (We'll remember in November.)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Just wow. Looks like somebody needs to go back to Dog Training, 101. Then, somebody needs to quit trying to beat the tar out of his fellow police officer and watch his dog better.

The dog just does what it’s been trained to do (or not).


40 posted on 02/02/2010 6:47:53 AM PST by Darnright (There can never be a complete confidence in a power which is excessive. - Tacitus)
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