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Newly Installed Wind Turbines Idled by Minnesota's Winter
TwinCities.com ^
| 01/23/2010
| Tad Vezner
Posted on 02/01/2010 10:54:44 AM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Cold Heart
I know what, let’s build a small power generating plant next to each windmill to generate the power to run the heaters to melt the snow off the solar cells to heat the oil to allow the windmill to run.......and the green grass grew all around, all around, and the green grass grew all around............
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posted on
02/01/2010 11:18:25 AM PST
by
Red Badger
(Education makes people easy to lead, difficult to drive; easy to govern, but impossible to enslave.)
To: COBOL2Java
Said heating elements powered by...? Unicorns on treadmills.
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posted on
02/01/2010 11:18:38 AM PST
by
palmer
(Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
To: Tax-chick
It is the bio-diesel that gels up.
The ethanol contaminated gas just collects water and corrodes your fuel system, especially small or carbureted engines.
To: WOBBLY BOB
So when the President is given a standing ovation for mentioning ten times the phrase renewable power and clean energy, this is one turkey that will just never fly. He can hope and change all he likes, but nothing will change that 20% figure. Too bad that kind of info won't be on the front page of my local paper.
To: Cold Heart
Oh, okay. I had a feeling I didn’t have it quite right.
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posted on
02/01/2010 11:22:38 AM PST
by
Tax-chick
(Thou hast well drunken, man - who's the fool now?)
To: Cold Heart
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posted on
02/01/2010 11:27:03 AM PST
by
tflabo
(Restore the Republic)
To: Cold Heart
It is the bio-diesel that gels up. The ethanol contaminated gas just collects water and corrodes your fuel system, especially small or carbureted engines. Why didn't they use Amsoil products?
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posted on
02/01/2010 11:28:36 AM PST
by
Dixie Yooper
(Ephesians 6:11)
To: Tax-chick
Here in PA they used to mix a little kerosene in with the diesel for the school buses. Last year they had to stop doing that because of emissions, and use some new miracle additive.
That didn’t work.
To: Dr. Scarpetta
Oil turning gel-like in winter.
Years ago a friend drove a tank truck from California to Alaska hauling synthetic oil for the equipment up there. Its advantage is that it doesn’t increase in viscosity as much when its cold. Lubricating mechanical devices in cold weather is thoroughly explored territory.
I’m very skeptical that engineers designing the wind turbines didn’t design for winter temperatures.
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posted on
02/01/2010 11:29:58 AM PST
by
frposty
(I'm a simpleton)
To: Dr. Scarpetta
He lives out in the country and his nearest neighbor is about 1/4 mile away. He has about 6 acres.
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posted on
02/01/2010 11:31:09 AM PST
by
kempster
To: Dr. Scarpetta
Yes, it's the worst of all worlds. They don't generate much energy. They cost a lot. They need tremendous maintenance. They are an eyesore. They kill incredible amounts of birds. They use up tons of space. They need governmental subsidies. I could go on but my blood pressure it going up. Windmills are a joke and would never be even considered by power engineers except in some very rare conditions. Only politicians (with no scientific or technical education) who are seduced by the energy charlatans would fall for the stupidity of it all. Just about any 2nd year Mechanical or Electrical Engineering Student at a good university could have told the politicians about all of this but those folks are just too dumb.
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posted on
02/01/2010 11:31:23 AM PST
by
truthguy
(Good intentions are not enough!)
To: COBOL2Java
Said heating elements powered by...? Pixie dust...
To: Pessimist
No doubt powered off the grid. The engineer that designed these turbines is now working for Government Motors.
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posted on
02/01/2010 11:37:14 AM PST
by
TYVets
(Let's Roll!!! The leadership of the GOP has no spine and no guts, but we conservatives do)
To: TYVets
And apparently never heard of 5W oil. :)
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posted on
02/01/2010 11:42:59 AM PST
by
Pessimist
(u)
To: Pessimist
Maybe they just should hire Jiffy Lube to go change the oil in spring and fall.
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posted on
02/01/2010 12:02:18 PM PST
by
TYVets
(Let's Roll!!! The leadership of the GOP has no spine and no guts, but we conservatives do)
To: thackney
You mean it gets cold in Minnesota during the winter?I recommend that they build an enclosure around the turbine and heat the enclosed space with natural gas. Then, to make the turbine move, they should install fans in front of the blades to blow the warmed air across the indoor blades. This should have the side benefit of keeping the output of the wind turbine constant, thus avoiding the typical problem of reduced output when the wind is not blowing.
This should still be significantly more cost effective that the greenies typical boondoggles...
To: Dr. Scarpetta
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posted on
02/01/2010 12:08:18 PM PST
by
coldoc
To: Cold Heart
Diesel will also gel up. You’re wrong on the ethanol also.
To: COBOL2Java
oh, that’s good. that’s very good.
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posted on
02/01/2010 12:43:28 PM PST
by
NonValueAdded
(Mass. elects Scott Brown. NVA:" for the first time in my adult life I am proud of my birth state")
To: Dr. Scarpetta
The heating coils will be powered by electricity from the windmills which will be able to produce power because the heating coils thaw the windmills which will power the heating coils.....but fear not, any excess power will be diverted to the peasantry shivering below.
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posted on
02/01/2010 12:52:07 PM PST
by
count-your-change
(You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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