Posted on 02/01/2010 8:02:22 AM PST by SeekAndFind
An image from a TV ad for gay marriage, reproduced in the January 18 New Yorker, provides a Rorschach test for reactions to Americas ongoing revolution in family structure. Two men in black suits stand shoulder to shoulder in a group of people, looking into each others eyes. In their arms are two newborns in white baby clothes and blankets. Though its not immediately apparent from the photo, the men are at a baptism for their infants. The ad, still being test-marketed, is called Family Values, and is intended to emphasize the conventionality of gay couples, explains the New Yorker.
If your reaction to the image is: Wheres the mother(s)? you may not yet be fully on board the conventionality bandwagon. If your reaction to the foregoing question, however, is: Why does it matter? then you are keeping pace with the revolution. Why does it matter? may ultimately prove the more appropriate response, but no one should pretend that it represents anything other than a radical revision of the traditional relationship between parents and children one whose consequences no one can predict.
Every time a homosexual couple conceives a child, there is another parent offstage somewhere whose sperm or egg has allowed conception to occur (and, in the case of male homosexuals, whose womb has allowed gestation to occur). In some homosexual families, that parent will be involved in his childs life; in others, he will remain completely anonymous and unknown. Parental identity and responsibility for children in a homosexual family do not flow from biology, they result from choice and intent. To the extent that a gay couple wants to retain the traditional number of parents in the home, it must exclude one biological parent from inclusion in the family unit. To the extent that a gay couple wants to preserve the traditional connection between that biological parent and his offspring, however, the adult side of the family becomes more of a non-traditional threesome.
These features of homosexual families also characterize infertile heterosexual couples who have used someone elses gametes to conceive. Indeed, the medical revolution that allows gays to procreate was driven by heterosexual demand. Infertile heterosexual couples unwilling to accept a biological limit in their lives spurred the ever-increasing array of gamete- and womb-swapping technologies that now includes sperm banks and complicated surrogacy arrangements. Unmarried middle-aged women, similarly unwilling to give up their assumed right to have it all, have also provided a market for revolutionary fertility techniques. Gays have merely piggybacked on procedures that heterosexuals created for themselves. When a heterosexual couple or single woman (and occasional single man) makes use of someone elses sex organs, biology is severed from parental responsibility no less than when a homosexual couple engages in that process.
This division of genetic and parental responsibility has been present throughout human history, of course, long before science learned how to manipulate reproductive cells. Orphans and abandoned children are raised by non-biological adoptive parents; divorce alienates one biological parent from the childs household and sometimes replaces that parent with another adult. But these arrangements were considered outliers to the normal practice of conceiving and raising children, forced on the parties by sad necessity. However felicitous and loving the new family arrangement may turn out to be, it did not challenge the understanding that the ideal route to a family was the shared conception of a child by a married man and woman. Likewise, the use of fertility techniques by heterosexual couples is still regarded as an exception to ordinary conception and child-rearing, and may not even be perceptible to outsiders. By contrast, every gay (and single parent) conception by definition entails an absent parent; it is a visible affirmation of the social acceptability of severing genetic contribution from parenting. Every gay couple and never-married single parent raising a child trigger the same potential question as the couple in the Family Values ad: Wheres the mother (or father)?
A large number of people will respond: Why does it matter? New York Times editorial writer Adam Cohen recently considered the possibility that reproductive technology will eventually allow three or more people . . . to combine their DNA to create a baby. Cohens response ultimately boils down to: So what? The law should move toward a greater recognition that the intent of the people involved is more important than the genes, he wrote. The concept of fractional parents, a phrase coined by a professor at the University of San Diego law school, causes no obvious disquiet in Cohen, and the legal conundrums that the reality of fractional parents would generate Could a baby one day have 100 parents? Could anyone who contributes DNA claim visitation rights? How much DNA is enough? apparently are to him (and undoubtedly to many others) merely interesting intellectual challenges, not potential sources of heartbreak and chaos for children. (It is just possible that the centrality of tradition-exploding fertility technology to gay conception drives the cheerful acceptance of that technologys complicated and destabilizing results by members of the enlightened intellectual elite.)
The main answer to the Why does it matter? question is this: The institutionalized severing of biology from parenthood affirms a growing trend in our society, that of men abandoning their biological children. Too many men now act like sperm donors: they conceive a child then largely disappear, becoming at best an intermittent presence in their childs life. This phenomenon is increasingly common among the less educated, and dominates in the black community. Too many children including the great majority of black children and large numbers of children of struggling working-class mothers are now raised in single-parent homes; many do not even know who their father is. The negative consequences of this family breakdown for children include higher rates of school failure and lack of socialization. Moreover, in a culture where men are not expected to raise their children, boys fail to learn the most basic lesson of personal responsibility and self-discipline.
If parental status is a matter of intent, however, not of genes, absent fathers can say: I never intended to take on the role of that childs parent; therefore Im not morally bound to act as a parent. Defenders of the separation of genes and parental identity may respond that when homosexuals and infertile couples make use of fertility technology, the intent of all parties to either raise or repudiate the resulting child is explicit and contractual. Where there has been no contractual repudiation of parenthood, an argument could run, the default tradition that links genetic and social parenting roles should prevail. It is not at all apparent, however, why heterosexual fathers who have engaged in physical intercourse should not be able to define their responsibilities according to intent, like fathers who have engaged in non-physical intercourse.
Gay child-rearing undercuts another understanding of why fathers should stay with their children: that mothers and fathers bring complementary attributes to child-rearing. On average, men and women have different biological dispositions towards aggression, competition, empathy, and cooperation a proposition that radical feminists and gender constructivists affirm, when they are not denying it as primitive and mystified. While there are of course exceptions and infinite variations on type, a father on average is more likely to serve as the authority figure and the model of manly virtues, the traditional understanding goes, the mother as nurturer. Gay child-rearing proclaims that boys do not need a father and male role model at home and that males can provide the same emotional rapport with their children as females can. Regardless of whether this claim is empirically accurate, it undermines the argument that fathers have a unique contribution to make in a boy or girls development. (Obviously, children who have lost one parent through death or separation may be raised without both sexes at home. But gay parenting creates a single-sex home as a matter of deliberate engineering, not accident or unforeseen chance.)
Even if one grants that the case for the biological two-parent family is more difficult in light of recombinant parenting, however, the implications for gay marriage are not self-evident. The primary challenge to traditional notions of parenthood comes from gay conception, not gay marriage. Even if gays never gain the right to marry, the practice of gay conception will presumably continue apace. Given that continuation, gay marriage at least preserves one strand of traditional child-bearing arrangements: raising children within the context of marriage.
Second, the rout of traditional parenting roles that fertility technology has set in motion is arguably so powerful that gay marriage will add little to the ongoing changes in how we think about parents and children. Designer babies engineered by heterosexual parents are in our future, no matter what parenting institution the law grants to gays.
But gay marriage moves the separation of parental status and biology to the center of the marriage institution. To be sure, most of the attributes of gay procreation and gay marriage can be found individually in other family structures. But those attributes most importantly, the absence of a childs biological father or mother from his life have been considered exceptions and second-best solutions to the norm for child-rearing. (Contrary to gay marriage proponents favorite rhetorical strategy, the existence of an exception does not mean that a norm or rule does not exist.) When gays procreate and marry, all those exceptions become the rule. To the extent that you worry about, rather than celebrate, the dissolution of biological ties between parents and children, gay marriage could be a straw that you are reluctant to add to the camels back.
These are not easy questions. The deprivation to gays from not being able to put the official, public stamp of legitimacy on their love is large. If one were confident that gay marriage will have at most a negligible effect on the ongoing dissolution of the traditional family, I would see no reason to oppose it. And fertility technology is hardly the only source of stress on families; heterosexual adults have been wreaking havoc on the two-parent family for the last five decades in their quest for maximal freedom and choice. The self-interested assumption behind that havoc has been that whats good for adults must be good for children: If adults want flexibility in their living arrangements, then children will benefit from it, as well. Perhaps children are as infinitely malleable as it would be convenient for them to be. But if it turns out that they thrive best with stability in their lives and that the traditional family evolved to provide that stability, then our breezy jettisoning of child-rearing traditions may not be such a boon for children.
The facile libertarian argument that gay marriage is a trivial matter that affects only the parties involved is astoundingly blind to the complexity of human institutions and to the web of sometimes imperceptible meanings and practices that compose them. Equally specious is attorney Theodore Olsons central theme in his legal challenge to Californias Proposition 8: that only animus towards gays or religious belief could explain someones hesitation regarding gay marriage. Anyone with the slightest appreciation for the Burkean understanding of tradition will feel the disquieting burden of his ignorance in this massive act of social reengineering, even if he ultimately decides that the benefits to gays from gay marriage outweigh the risks of the unknown.
Heather Mac Donald is the John M. Olin fellow at the Manhattan Institute and co-author of The Immigration Solution.
In a nutshell. Good line.
Can you elaborate?
The church that is officiating the baptism would be ok with same sex couples as members of that church. That is a celebration of the sin.
Go forth and sin no more. These so called churches deny it is a sin to begin with. Thus apostasy.
Ping
The ad is just part of the sodomite war on what is left of our Christian culture. Male sodomites don’t want children any more than they care much about “gay” marriage as an institution for themselves. The ones who want these things are primarily lesbians. The males have generally gone along, without much enthusiasm, as culture warriors.
McDonald is an atheist/agnostic (made clear in other writings), and her argument rests on claims about evolution and what is best for the child. As she should know, you can’t derive an “ought” from an “is” (David Hume). Consequently, her argument can always be dismissed by the great liberal “So what?” if they tire of trying to convince people of the lie that the sodomite burlesque of marriage is “just as good for children” as the “repressive, patriarchal, heterosexist, blah, blah” model that they seek to eliminate.
But the central point is that in a postmodern worldview, liberals have no reason to “privilege” the interests of children above their own - even if they were to concede that in some sense traditional marriage is better for children. Even if a metaphysical naturalist like McDonald were to effectively refute postmodernism (not all that hard to do), she still faces the the Humean dilemma, for there is no solution to the is/ought problem within metaphysical naturalism (which may have inadvertently been Hume’s deeper point). Consequently, for a metaphysical naturalist moral discussions are ultimately just chit-chat about personal preferences, and any conventional morality is just an artifact of a successful sales job.
It is this moral hollowness of metaphysical naturalism - which is associated with “modernism” - that the left has so effectively exploited to destroy our culture. A Christian culture cannot be defended within the context of a materialistic metaphysics.
So your church would withhold baptism from the child of a sinner. Do you think Christ would turn the child away?
You think that that church even considers homosexuality sinful? You’re dreaming.
I guess that the religious gay couples want to see same sex marriage legalized, otherwise God will see them “living together in sin”.
This is beyond comprehension are there no Normal couples left to adopt and provide a healthy upbringing???
I think YOU do and that is why you think the church should not baptize their adopted baby
Aside from the baptism of a child being for the child, regardless of the sins of his parents...
In Christ’s time it was lepers and prostitutes that his followers sought to turn away from His touch- and we know how he reacted
So you say that homosexuality is not a sin.
Tell me, do churches baptize children when the parents do not have a membership there?
Do churches typically look past ongoing transgressions like open swingers (who hold a monthly wife swapping party) to extend membership?
Hey, live and let live.
I never said homsexuality was not “a sin”
I said Christ would reach through that to baptize a child presented to him by two homosexuals
Your church must have a pretty stiff litmus test for infant baptism, if you must prove the parents were sinless
What religion and what god? ;-)
True but to ask God to protect the child with common grace above and beyond those parents that don't have their kids baptized is a mockery of the whole thing. I really doubt if the homosexual couples that might try to claim Christianity and have their kids baptized really give a rats ass about the Law, and about asking God to protect their kids, my gut feeling is that they are going through the motion of the Christian Cultural trying to act like Christians but not yielding their heart to God, because if they really yield their hearts to God they won't be Homosexuals. A generation that does keep God's law will be bless and those that don't keep God's law will be cursed. Being Homosexual is not in the spirit of keeping God's law, so right off you can say figuratively speaking that you are going to be cursed through life and your generation that Ok's the act will also be cursed too. To ask God to bless your kid through Baptism, is like asking a judge and jury to reverse their decision of guilty to not guilty and to declare the law invalid. My gut feeling is that homosexuals that try to claim Christianity are messed up people that can't rationalize things to well they make most of their decision by emotion. And the people that go to the Churches that ok homosexual I would say are also in the same boat. I don't think going to a Church that Ok's homosexuality is a good thing to do in regards to God's law, and his blessing and curses of in associated with it. I'd be always be worried about the roof caving in on me as a form of a curse.
How many faiths besides Christianity have a baptism ritual?
Barack Obama is a living example of that.
“Tell me, do churches baptize children when the parents do not have a membership there?
Do churches typically look past ongoing transgressions..”
Most churches I’m aware of will not. The baptism ceremony involves the sponsors (usually the parents) of the candidate. They are required to affirm under oath that they will help guide the baptized to follow Christ and his teachings; pretty hard to do when they are openly UNREPTENTANT of their own sins!!
The idea is not that his family is "sinless," but that his family understand their Christian obligation.
Absent such an understanding by the parents and godparents, no: the infant would not baptized in the Catholic Church.
A comparable situation; as far as I know, if living-together-unmarried parents want their child to be baptized, they would ordinarily be expected to marry before the child's Baptism.
This is not a rejection of the child, nor of his parents, but an attempt to encourage both the child and his parents in a Christian way of life.
The couple must be members. And to obtain church membership, the church would have to practice apostasy to say that same sex couples are in good standing.
We are all sinners. Some seek to claim that their sins are not sinful.
Gay pride parades celebrate sin (even if there is no debauchery on parade).
It is about norming the abnormal. As is the tv campaign showing two men in suits getting “their” child baptised. The article comments how some would ask “where’s the mother”, I also am asking “just what kind of a church is this”?
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