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To: RummyChick
Btw, if you lie to a divorce court and don’t tell them that the marriage was void ab initio...it doesn’t suddenly make the marriage valid for immigration purposes.

Doesn't really matter. If BHO Sr is listed as the father on the birth certificate, then BHO Sr is legally the father, legally married to the mother or not. In fact the Hawaii long form birth certificate of the period doesn't even contain information on legimacy. It has the mother's maiden name, and the father's name, but nothing about if they were married or not. (Although the mother would likely sign her married name, if they were married, or she thought they were).

But this is not an immigration issue and it's not BHO Jr's derivative British and/or Kenyan citizenship that matters, it's the lack of citizenship of his legal birth father hat matters.

87 posted on 02/01/2010 8:54:08 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato; rxsid; RummyChick
"But this is not an immigration issue and it's not BHO Jr's derivative British and/or Kenyan citizenship that matters, it's the lack of citizenship of his legal birth father hat matters."

I believe that a SCOTUS ruling is needed on this matter and prior to that, reasonable people can differ as to what that ruling would be.

I believe the NBC clause was designed to prevent dual citizenship and if the Dunham-Obama marriage was bigamous, the 1948 BNA would _not_ pass UK citizenship to BHO II, thus no dual citizenship or claims of a foreign sovereign on Obama and perhaps no constitutional issue, provided he was born in HI.

99 posted on 02/05/2010 9:36:55 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: El Gato

“But this is not an immigration issue and it’s not BHO Jr’s derivative British and/or Kenyan citizenship that matters, it’s the lack of citizenship of his legal birth father hat matters.”

It absolutely matters if you are arguing that Obama is not eligible because he had British citizenship- and this is the argument of many.

If all you are arguing is that he is not eligible because of father..then it doesn’t matter.

There is an interesting twist that might be relevant to a Supreme COurt....if everyone knew..including the family and the Spooks..that a US citzen was the father ..but they just put Obama Sr on there for national security reasons. Or maybe the real father wasn’t listed for national security reasons and he was not a US citizen. A guy involved with the Bay of Pigs invasion SUPPOSEDLY wrote an email that said a Cuban was the father. He said Ann was pregnant when she left Cuba. I have yet to see anyone that wrote this person to ask him if he wrote that email.

Of course, this is never going to make it the Supreme Cout.. It would be shut down long before then. In fact, maybe that is why it has been shut down. Maybe a US citizen IS his father....or someone else is and none of this can come out because of National Security.

Someone brought up a point that his birth is not the issue...that Obama renounced his citizenship with the State Dept. That would mean Hillary would know it.. I never saw an answer as to how this poster knew that.


104 posted on 02/06/2010 6:09:02 AM PST by RummyChick
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