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To: kpp_kpp

For Obama, his father was a British subject, and under British law at the time, Obama was a British subject as well. Obama, assuming he was born in Hawaii, can claim American citizenship through his mother. Thus, my comment about him being a dual citizen. What law applied to him?
That is a question.

What is not a question, though, is that since his father was NOT a citizen of America, Obama was not a natural born citizen.

A natural born citizen is not just a citizen born in the country, he has to have two parents who are citizens of the country at his birth.

I can’t speak to your situation specifically, only to say that if your wife was not born in America or naturalized as an American citizen prior to your children’s birth, those children are not natural born. They are American citizens, but not natural born citizens.

Natural born has a specific meaning—having two parents that are Americans. The Founders understood that and wanted the President to be someone who would not have divided loyalties.

I am not natural born. My father was an American citizen, but my mother was not naturalized until years after I was born. I am not eligible to be President of the United States, even though I was born here.


37 posted on 01/31/2010 11:24:29 PM PST by exit82 (Democrats are the enemy of freedom. Sarah Palin is our Esther.)
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To: exit82
I am not natural born. My father was an American citizen, but my mother was not naturalized until years after I was born. I am not eligible to be President of the United States, even though I was born here.

In the same boat bump.

41 posted on 02/01/2010 12:12:53 AM PST by MurrietaMadman (Luke 23:31)
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To: exit82

Excellent explanation of what constitutes “natural” born instead of “native” born, according to the US Constitution.

Drives me up the wall that talking heads on TV don’t acknowledge the difference in the two terms. Glenn Beck and B O’Reilly are two of the worst at just brushing off the subject (I don’t watch those other channels).


45 posted on 02/01/2010 3:54:23 AM PST by octex
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To: exit82

thank you for the excellent explanation.

would you happen to have an generic (non obama related) references i can refer to and cite that explain these distinctions?

thanks.


48 posted on 02/01/2010 5:37:28 AM PST by kpp_kpp
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To: exit82

“For Obama, his father was a British subject, and under British law at the time, Obama was a British subject as well.”

INCORRECT. I have posted about this ad nauseum and am not going to spend time going down this road again...just do research on illegitimate children and british law.


77 posted on 02/01/2010 3:14:18 PM PST by RummyChick
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