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School creep's detention haul
nypost.com ^ | January 31, 2010 | SUSAN EDELMAN

Posted on 01/31/2010 6:01:04 AM PST by WackySam

A Queens teacher who collects a $100,000 salary for doing nothing spends time in a Department of Education "rubber room" working on his law practice and managing 12 real-estate properties worth an estimated $7.8 million, The Post found.

Alan Rosenfeld hasn't set foot in a classroom for nearly a decade since he was accused in 2001 of making lewd comments to junior-high girls and "staring at their butts," yet the department still pays him handsomely for sitting on his own butt seven hours a day.

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1 posted on 01/31/2010 6:01:04 AM PST by WackySam
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“Instead, Schools Chancellor Joel Klein has kept the scruffy 64-year-old in a Brooklyn rubber room, deeming him too dangerous to be near kids, officials said.”
And Obama wants the whole damn country unionized because? There sure was a need for unions some 100 years ago but they have outlived their usefulness by a large amount.


2 posted on 01/31/2010 6:08:31 AM PST by wiggen (Never in the history of our great country have the people had less representation than they do today)
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Haw many unions are there in Cuba? That would seem to be the ultimate worker’s paradise.


3 posted on 01/31/2010 6:10:20 AM PST by Bernard (One if by Land, Two if by Sea, Three if by Government)
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There sure was a need for unions some 100 years ago but they have outlived their usefulness by a large amount.

Without unions who would guarantee rubber rooms for our less desirable government workers?

4 posted on 01/31/2010 6:11:15 AM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: wiggen

Few union members, however, own $7.8 million in real estate and conduct a law practice in their spare time.


5 posted on 01/31/2010 6:11:17 AM PST by proxy_user
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true but the out sized and unsustainable pension is fairly universal as is the difficulty in firing them. I knock no person for doing well but i naturally have to question how much of that did he make in his spare time collecting wages that he was in no way entitled to except under some Alice in Wonderland union rule.


6 posted on 01/31/2010 6:15:37 AM PST by wiggen (Never in the history of our great country have the people had less representation than they do today)
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To: wiggen
There sure was a need for unions some 100 years ago but they have outlived their usefulness by a large amount.

I wish I had a nickel for every time I've heard someone remark that. To my mind, there is never a "need" for an organization that uses the police power of the state to tell private individuals, at the point of a gun, under what terms and what rates of pay they may hire other private individuals to do work.

7 posted on 01/31/2010 6:16:36 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Obey the law, or you'll go to prison and be raped.)
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Unions is how Obama separates himself from a commie dictator. Unions are after all,democratic. No,really,they are. Stop laughing.


8 posted on 01/31/2010 6:17:17 AM PST by wiggen (Never in the history of our great country have the people had less representation than they do today)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Ever read about work conditions in the late 19th and early 20th century? Safety for miners? Would anything have been done by the government without unions? No,there was a time and a place for them but they went well beyond their parameters. There was never a reason for government employees for instance,to have unions. All they’ve done is create unsustainable wage and benefit scales which is why state governments and soon the federal as well are in the same condition as a GM or a legacy airline.


9 posted on 01/31/2010 6:21:56 AM PST by wiggen (Never in the history of our great country have the people had less representation than they do today)
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Ever read about work conditions in the late 19th and early 20th century? Safety for miners? Would anything have been done by the government without unions? No,there was a time and a place for them but they went well beyond their parameters.

I'm not interested in that kind of rationalization for government interference in private affairs. I'm a conservative, you see.

10 posted on 01/31/2010 6:25:52 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Obey the law, or you'll go to prison and be raped.)
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“Few union members, however, own $7.8 million in real estate and conduct a law practice in their spare time.”

How about paying this creep 100 grand a year for 10 years to do nothing?


11 posted on 01/31/2010 6:37:54 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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To: wiggen

The way I see it, unions helped working folks get compensated according to their fair market value. Starting sometime in the 50s, they began to lose their understanding of what a market is.


12 posted on 01/31/2010 6:45:04 AM PST by wolfpat (Moderate=Clueless)
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Thats pretty much the way i know the history of unions as well. For some reason that means we’re not conservatives.


13 posted on 01/31/2010 6:47:44 AM PST by wiggen (Never in the history of our great country have the people had less representation than they do today)
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The way I see it, unions helped working folks get compensated according to their fair market value. Starting sometime in the 50s, they began to lose their understanding of what a market is.

"Fair market value", by definition, is what they would have been paid without the coercive effect of unions.

What a union does is use the threat of violence and sabotage to coerce a company to pay above market wages to union members.

14 posted on 01/31/2010 6:53:45 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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Ever read about work conditions in the late 19th and early 20th century? Safety for miners? Would anything have been done by the government without unions?

A hundred years ago, people chose to take the risk of working hazardous jobs because they paid better than the available non-hazardous jobs.

When economic conditions improved, people could choose to make the tradeoff of foregoing some amount of pay in order to have safer working conditions.

15 posted on 01/31/2010 6:58:12 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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Having worked for Yorkwood Schools in Monmouth Ill. This kind of thing comes as no surprise. I was slandered out of
the job after refusing to let the superintendents friends
tank up at the school pump among other reasons. There were
veiled threats that drugs might be planted on my stepson if
I didn't resign.
16 posted on 01/31/2010 7:04:21 AM PST by CrazyIvan (What's "My Struggle" in Kenyan?)
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To: PapaBear3625

A miner was not going to get a job as a bank teller or a teacher. People did not have the variety of jobs available to them at that time nor the education to have true job mobility.


17 posted on 01/31/2010 7:07:19 AM PST by wiggen (Never in the history of our great country have the people had less representation than they do today)
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To: PapaBear3625

That’s what they do now.


18 posted on 01/31/2010 7:08:28 AM PST by wolfpat (Moderate=Clueless)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

I thought about your reply,whether it was worth getting into a discussion with someone that throws up his magic ‘i’m a conservative shield’ as though that should stop all conversation since it makes the user invulnerable to criticism. I decided,what the hell,go for it.
Early 20th century businesses didn’t much care for paying their workers a fair wage,nor the conditions they worked in. Neither did local governments as many times police were sent in to break up the mere attempt at unionization.
The fact is the employees had nobody to turn to but themselves. This is the path they chose when the world turned a deaf ear to them. Just how different is that from the Tea Parties? One was economic,one political,both with the same goal,to be heard.
I won’t continue this conversation any further because i know i can’t defeat the magic conservative shield but now and then i enjoy tilting at windmills. Have a great day.


19 posted on 01/31/2010 7:12:17 AM PST by wiggen (Never in the history of our great country have the people had less representation than they do today)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Unions were always Marxist-Socialist.


20 posted on 01/31/2010 7:21:06 AM PST by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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