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Scott Brown: 'People Aren't Stupid' [a chat with WSJ's John Fund]
Wall Street Journal Online Weekend ^ | 013010 | John Fund

Posted on 01/30/2010 11:18:04 AM PST by the invisib1e hand

When I arrived at his cramped state senate offices, Scott Brown had just opened one of the many packages he's received since his stunning U.S. Senate victory 11 days ago. A local artist has done up a version of the iconic red, white and blue collage from the 2008 presidential campaign that shows Barack Obama with the word "Hope." This one features a smiling Mr. Brown instead, but the word below is different. It reads "Change."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; Political Humor/Cartoons
KEYWORDS: brown; fabiansocialism; incrementalism; people; politicians; stupid
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To: the invisib1e hand
The voting record was sent to me by a fellow FReeper along with her comment of 'leaning right'. I really didn't follow Brown only to the point that he is a wall to nationalizing the health care system. That was a big part of his platform. A statement was sent to Washington and it was loud. Brown has done nothing yet so we shall see. One thing is for certain........it's no longer a Kennedy seat. /s
41 posted on 01/30/2010 5:36:57 PM PST by Outlaw Woman (If you remove the first Amendment, we'll be forced to move on to the next one.)
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To: mkjessup
Oh I quite agree. You're not a star-struck bimbo at all, you're a 1-percenter purist. If you had been living in Massachusetts instead of New York, would you have voted for Brown or Coakley?

If by the first, you mean that I will brook no compromise with the sanctity of human life and protection of the defenseless, then you are correct. For these are two of the very few legitimate roles of government. Let's try to get the basics right before we go fixing up everything else.

As for the second, that is a good question. I don't know. I think I would have been a great deal more vocal about what it means to be a conservative, and perhaps that is all my contribution could have been. Perhaps I would have found a way to press the candidate on the protection of basic rights protected by our founding documents such as the right to life.

I don't think I could have, in good conscience, compromised. Lots of other people could (and did) and apparently have no such misgivings. But that doesn't change the realities that I have pointed out on this thread -- that, indeed, anyone paying attention has seen.

If moral compromise is a legitimate strategy in politics, I'm certainly not fit for it. But I'm even less fit to ignore it. If you adopt that strategy, that's your business. Don't kid yourself about what you're doing. Keep it real. Accept facts. The man who was elected is no conservative, if the definition means anything.

42 posted on 01/30/2010 5:41:35 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (governance is not sovereignty [paraphrasing Bishop Fulton Sheen].)
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To: Outlaw Woman
he is a wall to nationalizing the health care system.

No, he is not. He has said it for universal healthcare. He voted for it in Mass. He endorsed it in the article posted on this thread.

"Obamacare" isn't the enemy -- socialism is, and "obamacare" and "universal health care" are simply two manifestations of it.

People, let's be real about this.

43 posted on 01/30/2010 5:44:28 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (governance is not sovereignty [paraphrasing Bishop Fulton Sheen].)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
is, however, a fairly good chance that he is an American -

An American, sir, would give his life for the protection of the basic human rights enumerated in America's founding documents.

44 posted on 01/30/2010 5:45:37 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (governance is not sovereignty [paraphrasing Bishop Fulton Sheen].)
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To: the invisib1e hand
"Brown's running to send the health care legislation "back to the drawing board," and he's pledging to be the additional vote the Republicans need to prevent the bill from coming to floor for passage in the Senate. Basically, Brown's running to stop health care reform: "I'm looking forward to having the opportunity to being the 41st vote," he said in a recent debate" Source: CBSnews.com Jan 19, 2010

Don't know what else to say except what I already replied. What exactly is your point? What do you think the answer is/was? What do you think you are accomplishing here?

His election was a strong voice, especially from people already living the semi nightmare of their own socialistic system....What are your answers/solutions?

45 posted on 01/30/2010 7:25:21 PM PST by Outlaw Woman (If you remove the first Amendment, we'll be forced to move on to the next one.)
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To: the invisib1e hand
Who did he replace?

The Senator from Chappaquiddick.

Even McCain, RINO that he is, didn't talk to the Kremlin during the Cold War offering to help sabotage Reagan's placement of missiles in Europe as a counter to the Soviets.

So by comparison, Brown *is* a step up.

Cheers!

46 posted on 01/30/2010 9:14:46 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: the invisib1e hand
One either defends the sanctity of all human life or one does not.

One can ba an ardent pro-lifer.

One can ignore it and watch American 'Idle'.

One can be like Sen. Chappaquiddick, who, when asked his opinion on the abortion bill, shrugged his shoulders and said, "I guess I'll just have to pay it." /rim shot>

Or one can be Obama :

Cheers!

47 posted on 01/30/2010 9:17:58 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Cicero
And, of course, mischief-making on the part of the press, who first raised the idea. Not yet seated in the Senate, and they’re calling him presidential. They wish.

No, they're just overconfident after it worked so well with Obama.

However, to quote C.S. Lewis in The Screwtape Letters:

The characteristic of Pains and Pleasures is that they are unmistakably real, and therefore, as far as they go, give the man who feels them a touchstone of reality. Thus if you had been trying to damn your man by the Romantic method—by making him a kind of Childe Harold or Werther submerged in self-pity for imaginary distresses—you would try to protect him at all costs from any real pain; because, of course, five minutes' genuine toothache would reveal the romantic sorrows for the nonsense they were and unmask your whole stratagem.

This is how Obama got elected : "Your life sucks, doesn't it. Vote for Hope and ChangeTM. Vote for ObamaTM>

But now that people's lives really do suck, we're not going to fall for it again: and there will likely be a grave backlash against those who (as we see it) took everything away from us just when it was going great.

Hence the desperate spin to start the new narrative of "the lost decade".

But people who have lost their jobs in the last six months to a year just ain't gonna fall for it.

Cheers!

48 posted on 01/30/2010 9:25:26 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: the invisib1e hand
And when the media starts telling us that Obamacare is "dead," my gut is that it can only mean that some other trojan horse is being set to march in.

Then we just repeat to the Democrats, only much louder : "#%&! yourself and the NEXT Trojan Horse you rode in on."

Cheers!

49 posted on 01/30/2010 9:27:52 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

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50 posted on 01/30/2010 9:36:38 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (governance is not sovereignty [paraphrasing Bishop Fulton Sheen].)
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To: the invisib1e hand

I hear they have a “real conservative” heaven ...I hope you make it


51 posted on 01/30/2010 9:39:45 PM PST by woofie
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To: the invisib1e hand
Some are worse than others. Kennedy was one of the worst. I'll trade him for a "merely bad" if by doing so we scare the sh*t out of all the other entrenched pols in D.C.

Cheers!

52 posted on 01/30/2010 9:43:11 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

last time I checked, the mortality rate on abortions approached 100%.


53 posted on 01/30/2010 9:44:42 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (governance is not sovereignty [paraphrasing Bishop Fulton Sheen].)
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To: woofie
I hear they have a “real conservative” heaven ...I hope you make it

Exactly what are you too clever to say directly?

54 posted on 01/30/2010 9:46:16 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (governance is not sovereignty [paraphrasing Bishop Fulton Sheen].)
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To: the invisib1e hand
You *do* know the history of Obama and the Born-Alive Infant Protection Act, don't you? That was what the dumpster picture is about.

Secondly, even though Brown does assume that Roe v. Wade is the law of the land, he doesn't seem militant about actively promoting even more abortions, and wild-assed sex ed (like Kevin Jennings) which would lead to a greater *number* of abortions.

(Or for that matter, Obama himself, who according to ABC, said:

"ABC News' Teddy Davis and Lindsey Ellerson Report: Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., told Planned Parenthood Tuesday that sex education for kindergarteners, as long as it is "age-appropriate," is 'the right thing to do.'")

Cheers!

55 posted on 01/30/2010 9:49:54 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers
Secondly, even though Brown does assume that Roe v. Wade is the law of the land, he doesn't seem militant about actively promoting even more abortions, and wild-assed sex ed (like Kevin Jennings) which would lead to a greater *number* of abortions.

I see. I guess you're right. 1.4 million abortions a year is better.

You do see that a person is either pro-life or pro-death, don't you?

56 posted on 01/30/2010 9:56:16 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (governance is not sovereignty [paraphrasing Bishop Fulton Sheen].)
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To: the invisib1e hand
Of course. But some are merely apathetic about the death, others openly encourage and cheer it on.

Cheers!

57 posted on 01/30/2010 9:57:44 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers
Of course. But some are merely apathetic about the death, others openly encourage and cheer it on.

I see your point. Obama's zeal can probably be traced to more immediate political debts.

But I don't think the people who presume to power and influence can be considered apathetic about anything that impacts on the welfare of the citizens, any more than a surgeon can be apathetic about the instruments he uses or the organs he removes.

They either are or aren't defenders of the innocent and they either do or do not defend the principles put forth in the founding documents of the land, to wit, the right to life.

Apathy is not permitted.

58 posted on 01/30/2010 10:06:09 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (governance is not sovereignty [paraphrasing Bishop Fulton Sheen].)
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To: the invisib1e hand
When asked what less successful outcome of the November 1989 election meant for Republicans, (Lee)Atwater gave an interesting answer that seemed to send a message to fellow Republicans and to voters.

“Our party is a big tent,” he said. “We can house many views on many issues. Abortion is no exception.”

Some sources say Atwater coined the political phrase “big tent” that day. But, while his use may be the most famous, the term had been used previously by both Republicans and Democrats.

Back in 1975, Democratic House Speaker Thomas “Tip” O’Neill told a reporter: “The Democratic Party is a big tent. We are widely diversified.”

During the 1980 presidential election, the Republican National Chairman at the time, Bill Brock, urged the party to embrace a “big tent” strategy. That year, Ronald Reagan won in a landslide over President Jimmy Carter and Republicans gained control of the Senate – the first time Republicans controlled one of the Houses of Congress since 1954.

Of course Atwater was an advisor to that noted non-conservative Ronald Reagan

59 posted on 01/30/2010 10:15:55 PM PST by woofie
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To: woofie

I don’t recall Lee Atwater making law.


60 posted on 01/30/2010 10:23:50 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (governance is not sovereignty [paraphrasing Bishop Fulton Sheen].)
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