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The public face of gun-rights battle (Chicago handgun ban goes to Supreme Court next month)
Chicago Tribune ^ | January 31, 2010 | Colleen Mastony

Posted on 01/30/2010 8:15:44 AM PST by Second Amendment First

To defend himself, McDonald says, he needs a handgun. So, in April of 2008, the retired maintenance engineer agreed to serve as the lead plaintiff in a lawsuit challenging Chicago's 28-year-old handgun ban. Soon after, he walked into the Chicago Police Department and, as his attorneys had directed, applied for a .22-caliber Beretta pistol, setting the lawsuit into motion. When that case is argued before the U.S. Supreme Court on March 2, McDonald will become the public face of one of the most important Second Amendment cases in the nation's history.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist

1 posted on 01/30/2010 8:15:44 AM PST by Second Amendment First
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To: Second Amendment First
The problem is that even if the illegal Chicago gun ban is overturned Chicago will simply ignore it just as DC has when their gun ban was overturned... or they will put so many procedural hoops in place that law abiding citizens will not be legally able to engage in our second amendment rights.

If it was up to me, any government official that this would be arrested and prosecuted but that will never happen. How do we deal with this?

2 posted on 01/30/2010 8:19:24 AM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: pnh102
It seems to me that if anyone has been harmed because they have not been able to arm themselves due to government employees ignoring the law, then the government and the individual should be able to be sued, since they wouldn't be protected by immunity for "doing their job." By breaking the law, they are specifically NOT doing their job.

Mark

3 posted on 01/30/2010 8:23:30 AM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: MarkL

bingo.


4 posted on 01/30/2010 8:26:31 AM PST by RC one (WHAT!!!)
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To: pnh102

If the 2A is incoporated, subsequent cases will the test the definition of “infringement.” Many existing and proposed laws will then be challenged producing new precidents. I see this as the new foundation from which to refine our laws. I’m excited, but also don’t expect sea changes overnight.


5 posted on 01/30/2010 8:27:53 AM PST by umgud (I couldn't understand why the ball kept getting bigger......... then it hit me.)
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To: Second Amendment First
...he walked into the Chicago Police Department and, as his attorneys had directed, applied for a .22-caliber Beretta pistol, setting the lawsuit into motion.

You mean you can go to police HQ and apply for a pistol? I thought you had to buy them!

6 posted on 01/30/2010 8:39:16 AM PST by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., hot enough down there today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: pnh102

You deal with it by continuing to fund the NRA and other 2A organizations who will continue to file lawsuits on every illegal gun law.

DC vs Heller started the ball rolling, and the lawsuits are going to continue coming and driven by mostly the NRA and its members.


7 posted on 01/30/2010 8:41:00 AM PST by AlmaKing
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To: pnh102
You are correct. From the article:

McDonald and his wife plan to travel to Washington, D.C., in March to watch the historic oral arguments at the Supreme Court. Many legal experts are predicting that the court will strike down Chicago's handgun ban, which could allow McDonald to get the Beretta pistol he wants. Even if that happens, no one expects a dramatic spike in the number of handguns in Chicago. That's because Daley, a longtime proponent of gun control, will almost certainly replace the ban with tight regulations. Exactly how restrictive those regulations would be remains to be seen.

8 posted on 01/30/2010 8:44:06 AM PST by Second Amendment First
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To: pnh102
Undue interference and restriction of a fundamental right is likely to be addressed by the USSC this spring as well.

I expect them to provide broad guidelines as to what the states can do...and what they can't do.

Background checks are a given...though I question waiting periods.

Licensing? No way...not with a FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT.

Restrictions on ammo? Nope...only the gun and ammo combined allow for the free exercise of the right.

We'll see come June/July.

9 posted on 01/30/2010 8:45:03 AM PST by Mariner
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To: Second Amendment First

People, it took literally centuries of people ignoring the encroachments for the situation to come to the point where the right to arms is so restricted. Thus, it will take time—probably decades—and a lot of work to get it truly restored. I know a lot of you will now become disillusioned and give up. Well, that’s what led to the current administration getting into the White House, so I won’t be surprised.


10 posted on 01/30/2010 9:00:05 AM PST by TommygunNG
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To: pnh102

The DC hoops are being sued about right now. We deal with this in the same way that Heller dealt with the DC gun ban - one single step at a time, starting with his decision some 20 years ago to apply to become an entry-level security guard.


11 posted on 01/30/2010 10:19:02 AM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Mariner
Background checks are a given...though I question waiting periods.

Why are background checks a given? Do you need a background check before being permitted to write a letter to the editor?

12 posted on 01/30/2010 10:19:49 AM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: AlmaKing
DC vs Heller started the ball rolling, and the lawsuits are going to continue coming and driven by mostly the NRA and its members.

The NRA most definitely did not support the lawsuit in Heller. After the victory, they jumped belatedly on the bandwagon, but this wasn't in any material way driven by the NRA.

13 posted on 01/30/2010 10:25:07 AM PST by zeugma (Proofread a page a day: http://www.pgdp.net/)
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To: Second Amendment First

bump


14 posted on 01/30/2010 1:07:21 PM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (We are unable to transmit through conscious neural interference.)
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To: Second Amendment First

banglist BUMP


15 posted on 01/30/2010 2:53:52 PM PST by 50cal Smokepole (Effective gun control involves effective recoil management)
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To: zeugma
That isn’t the only untruth in the article. Did you see this whooper?

“Since the early 1900s, federal courts and most state courts had agreed that the Second Amendment protected only a collective right to bear arms, which, at the time the Constitution was framed, was considered integral to maintaining militias.”

This would only be the case if you considered 1939 to be the “early 1900s”.

16 posted on 01/30/2010 7:28:54 PM PST by marktwain
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To: zeugma
The NRA most definitely did not support the lawsuit in Heller. After the victory, they jumped belatedly on the bandwagon, but this wasn't in any material way driven by the NRA.

Absolutely. I'm done with them. All my 2A $ will go to calguns from now on.

17 posted on 01/30/2010 7:33:43 PM PST by expat_brit
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To: umgud

my prediction continues to be incorporation, followed quickly [like the NEXT day] by a pallet of ‘common sense’ national standards...


18 posted on 01/30/2010 10:27:26 PM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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