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President Obama rumbles with House GOP
Politico ^ | January 29, 2010 | PATRICK O'CONNOR & TIM GRIEVE

Posted on 01/29/2010 10:56:16 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia

BALTIMORE — President Barack Obama on Friday accused Republicans of portraying health care reform as a "Bolshevik plot" and telling their constituents that he’s "doing all kinds of crazy stuff that's going to destroy America."

Speaking to House Republicans at their annual policy retreat here, Obama said that over-the-top GOP attacks on him and his agenda have made it virtually impossible for Republicans to address the nation’s problems in a bipartisan way.

“What happens is that you guys don’t have a lot of room to negotiate with me,” Obama said, silencing the smattering of Republicans who had applauded when he said “Bolshevik plot.” "The fact of the matter is, many of you, if you voted with the administration on something, are politically vulnerable with your own base, with your own party because what you've been telling your constituents is, ‘This guy's doing all kinds of crazy stuff that's going to destroy America.' ''

Obama’s comments came in the midst of an extraordinary back-and-forth with Republican House members – a scene straight out of the House of Commons that played out live on cable TV.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: gop; grammascoffeecan; obama; retreat
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To: DannyTN
I hope the Republicans held their own.

They kicked his ass. Dear Reader looked positively clownish.

21 posted on 01/29/2010 11:08:24 AM PST by MNJohnnie ("The trouble with socialism is that eventually you run out of other peoples' money" Lady Thatcher)
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To: Laserman

I saw part of it. He was trying to lecture and be seductive at the same time.

Hubby says he is “on the run” but I don’t know. I think he is coming at it another way and the pubs better be careful or they will be rolled or demonized even more.


22 posted on 01/29/2010 11:08:35 AM PST by cajungirl
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Obama can't take responsible criticism to heart. He's a born egomaniac. If he wants Republican help, he needs to change course.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find only things evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelogus

23 posted on 01/29/2010 11:08:51 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Texas4ever
ahhh..
reachin' across the aisle..
Obama Style
24 posted on 01/29/2010 11:09:03 AM PST by evad (OBAMA is a Clear and Present Danger to This Nation)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Coming from a perspective that I had a few years ago - not knowing ANYTHING about politics like most in my generation - I am a little worried that the uniformed will look at this as a sincere president trying to work with the GOP and the GOP just refusing to listen.

Obama is saying things like, "We need to work together", "The American people don't want us to work on our job security, they want us to work on their job security". Those are GREAT things to say Mr. Resident. Unfortunately those remarks come after Mass. rocks the political arena by electing Brown and as healthcare goes from almost a sure thing to becoming a distant memory.

I just hope that the people in my generation will see this new batch of lies and still see him for the destroyer of American dreams that he really is.

25 posted on 01/29/2010 11:10:13 AM PST by Mind Freed (Maybe Obama was the Wright choice... Let's wait till everything Ayers out.)
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To: libs_kma

Did any Repubs go back at him or did they just sit there and let him say all this crap?? I’m sick beyond death of this madman President who thinks he’s on the same level as God.


26 posted on 01/29/2010 11:10:14 AM PST by midnightcat
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

I haven’t heard a single house GOP member tell me he’s a damn traitor, his policies told me so.


27 posted on 01/29/2010 11:10:19 AM PST by east1234 (It's the borders stupid! My new environmentalist inspired tagline: cut, kill, dig and drill)
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To: downtownconservative

Here is the thread as it was happening live:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2440164/posts

I think the GOP held his feet to the fire pretty well.


28 posted on 01/29/2010 11:11:04 AM PST by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
“What happens is that you guys don’t have a lot of room to negotiate with me,” Obama said

Oh, how that will soon change. Zeroboy will live to regret his comments.

29 posted on 01/29/2010 11:11:12 AM PST by ScottinVA (Glad to see Demonic Unhinged (DU) highlights and attacks my FR comments!)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Hasn’t Zero heard?

DISSENT IS PATRIOTIC!

*I know because the dems told me so.


30 posted on 01/29/2010 11:13:52 AM PST by OpusatFR
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To: Red Badger
I agree to the extent that Republicans need to stand up, take the gloves off and let the Democrats know exactly where we stand. The give and take is what we all need to see and hear for ourselves. We can't make a decision without knowing what we're deciding and hearing all the debate. At the end of the day, if “no” is our answer, at least we'll know we've heard it all.

Vigorous debate is a “good thing”. Let's all keep that in mind. I want to hear from someone qualified to make the call why buying insurance across state lines is a bad thing. I want to hear why providing “wellness visits” at the very least can't be provided to those with disabilities. Autistic kids can have appendicitis, too. I want to hear why we can't have some sort of tort reform, or at least the power to punish frivolous law suits so malpractice insurance can't jack up medical costs we pay. Why can't everyone have an HSA? I want to hear why the Democrats don't like that. If the answer is good enough, I might agree.

To simply propose throwing out the entire system and starting over is just like it was in the 60s — anarchy, instead of fixing what was broke. I just can't see that as the best approach.

31 posted on 01/29/2010 11:14:04 AM PST by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: downtownconservative

I strongly disagree with your analysis. The Repubs couldn’t come accross like attack dogs on TV or it would have been a PR disaster. They asked sensible, loaded questions and constantly questioned his honesty without calling him a liar. A bare knuckles brawl would only have helped The One. My favorite was Congressman Price who definitely got under Bambi’ skin. The Repubs also got some great footage for a future campaign ad when Obama said “we added a trillion dollars to the budget.” Gee is that all?


32 posted on 01/29/2010 11:14:22 AM PST by moose2004 (Stand up, speak out and stop Obamacare and GE)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Hey Barry, now that you need Republicans on your side to win passage for your legislation, what do you do? You go to their retreat and lecture them? That’s like ‘burning a bridge’ with a nuclear weapon. Oh, and last time I checked, you weren’t lecturing Democrats on being more cooperative and bipartisan when they were working behind closed doors with no Republicans allows in.


33 posted on 01/29/2010 11:16:03 AM PST by LoneStarGI (Vegetarian: Old Indian word for "BAD HUNTER.")
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Remember during the election when Obama the Marxist said he would not cut the capital gains tax, even if it would increase revenues, because that would not be “fair”?

Video: http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/obama_on_capital_gains_tax_lets_tax_the_rich_because_they_make_too_much/

And now he actually has the nerve to stand up there and say that he is not an ideologue?!? HA!!

He is a radical revolutionary.

He is a Marxist/Socialist/Communist.

He is trying to fundamentally transform America into a socialist/communist country.

Lecture or no lecture, we are not going to back down from the truth.

To underscore just how bad it is, compare the measures required to achieve Communism championed by Engles in the Principles of Communism to what The One is doing. This pratically mirrors his agenda!

The Principles of Communism - Engles 1847

(i) Limitation of private property through progressive taxation, heavy inheritance taxes, abolition of inheritance through collateral lines (brothers, nephews, etc.) forced loans, etc.

(ii) Gradual expropriation of landowners, industrialists, railroad magnates and shipowners, partly through competition by state industry, partly directly through compensation in the form of bonds.

(iii) Confiscation of the possessions of all emigrants and rebels against the majority of the people.

(iv) Organization of labor or employment of proletarians on publicly owned land, in factories and workshops, with competition among the workers being abolished and with the factory owners, in so far as they still exist, being obliged to pay the same high wages as those paid by the state.

(v) An equal obligation on all members of society to work until such time as private property has been completely abolished. Formation of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.

(vi) Centralization of money and credit in the hands of the state through a national bank with state capital, and the suppression of all private banks and bankers.

(vii) Increase in the number of national factories, workshops, railroads, ships; bringing new lands into cultivation and improvement of land already under cultivation – all in proportion to the growth of the capital and labor force at the disposal of the nation.

(viii) Education of all children, from the moment they can leave their mother’s care, in national establishments at national cost. Education and production together.

(ix) Construction, on public lands, of great palaces as communal dwellings for associated groups of citizens engaged in both industry and agriculture and combining in their way of life the advantages of urban and rural conditions while avoiding the one-sidedness and drawbacks of each.

(x) Destruction of all unhealthy and jerry-built dwellings in urban districts.

(xi) Equal inheritance rights for children born in and out of wedlock.

(xii) Concentration of all means of transportation in the hands of the nation.

It is impossible, of course, to carry out all these measures at once. But one will always bring others in its wake. Once the first radical attack on private property has been launched, the proletariat will find itself forced to go ever further, to concentrate increasingly in the hands of the state all capital, all agriculture, all transport, all trade. All the foregoing measures are directed to this end; and they will become practicable and feasible, capable of producing their centralizing effects to precisely the degree that the proletariat, through its labor, multiplies the country’s productive forces.

Finally, when all capital, all production, all exchange have been brought together in the hands of the nation, private property will disappear of its own accord, money will become superfluous, and production will so expand and man so change that society will be able to slough off whatever of its old economic habits may remain.


34 posted on 01/29/2010 11:17:03 AM PST by Painesright
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Balance of power ruining your imperial ambitions, Caesar? Tough. That’s exactly what it’s designed to do.


35 posted on 01/29/2010 11:17:18 AM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: illiac

For later viewing.


36 posted on 01/29/2010 11:17:45 AM PST by christianhomeschoolmommaof3
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To: downtownconservative
I think it should rightfully have become a controlled brawl. Zero should have walked out of that meeting shake

It did, he did.

The GOP has a delicate PR line to walk here. They cannot feed into "Party of No" propaganda line so they offered him the deference any President would get in such a situation. They allowed him a chance and when he decided to be a punk, they went after him. They did NOT allow him to control the meeting and it got down right hostile by the end of it.

Dear Reader went into this thinking he was getting a photo op. The GOP House finally decided, ENOUGH of this Clown act and took it too him.

37 posted on 01/29/2010 11:18:17 AM PST by MNJohnnie ("The trouble with socialism is that eventually you run out of other peoples' money" Lady Thatcher)
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To: sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker; rabscuttle385; Uncle Chip
“Obama said that over-the-top GOP attacks on him and his agenda have made it virtually impossible for Republicans to address the nation’s problems in a bipartisan way.”

Say there Comrade Zero?
Here's a bipartisan message for ya:
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38 posted on 01/29/2010 11:18:18 AM PST by mkjessup (Hi, Sarah Palin here, asking you to put aside your common sense and vote for that RINO John McCain)
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To: moose2004

And now the question is, why wouldn’t Obama allow C-Span to show him talking to the Democrats?


39 posted on 01/29/2010 11:18:37 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Constitutions Grandchild
anarchy............That is the goal.........Cloward-Priven Strategy via Ailinsky's Rules for Radicals..............
40 posted on 01/29/2010 11:19:18 AM PST by Red Badger (Education makes people easy to lead, difficult to drive; easy to govern, but impossible to enslave.)
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