Posted on 01/28/2010 5:27:43 PM PST by DesertRenegade
The percentage is much lower overall for heterosexual males, but nowhere near that much lower for men who regularly have sex with prostitutes, who are much more likely to be HIV-infected. And don’t forget heterosexual women who engage in anal sex — the difference in transmission rate is due to receptive anal sex, without regard to the gender of the receiver. Lesbians have much *lower* rates of HIV infection than heterosexual women, for this reason, so why on earth is the military subjecting lesbians to the idiotic “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy? If HIV is such a big factor in this policy (which it isn’t, but you seem to think it is, so we’ll assume it is for the sake of argument), then the military should be knocking itself out to recruit lesbians.
I’m not suggesting separate anything. I’m suggesting not allowing homosexual *men* (women are a whole different story) to serve in those settings at all. If that means that homosexual men whose only qualifications for military service is in those areas don’t get hired, that’s fine. What’s not fine is turning away or kicking out Arabic and Pashtun speakers whose skills are urgently needed in settings which do *not* involve group sleeping rooms or group showers.
Watch also for chaplains being court-martialed for “hate speech” if they dare to preach what the Bible says about homosexual perversion.
It does not matter to me whether it’s normal or abnormal. I’m asking if it is distracting. Have you heard of the Love Boat? One of the first submarine tenders to have a mixed crew, and how many pregnancies resulted?
Your argument for normal or abnormal does not make sense. You’re inconsistent. You really think that professionally trained military officers and enlisted personnel, in the heat of battle are going to start having sex?
You have your opinion and I have mine. I have a hard time believing you knowingly knew you had several living in the barracks with you. In my 20 years in the Army, I NEVER had ONE admit being a homosexual around any other troop. I know of several who were kicked out for it, but never admitting they were and living in the barracks with them. They would not have survived. I find your statement very very hard to believe.
no it doesn’t matter to you because probably you have a daughter or son, friend whpo is a homosexual.
you sound like the crowd who watches Oprah and says they don’t care but can’t even thnk about the acts they do together.
Have you served?
I have and I know how things are in the military and I am telling you that having open homosexuals in serving is a big mistake of which I have already mentioned previously.
you’re on here as a so called conservative and yet you are now trying to defend to have open homosexuals in the military, an institution which I bet you have not served in
I’m going out on a limb here but is someone in your family a homosexual and if so have you actually thought of he/her doing these acts to the same sex?
I ask because of what of what you said and it sounds like the usual crap they would say.
Relevant to your interests ping.
I bow to your superior experience.
well it’s pretty obvious what queer two men do with each other isn’t it.???
>Log Cabin Republicans national spokesperson Charles T. Moran, comments: President Obama is more concerned about protecting the rights of terrorists than he is about the rights of gay and lesbian Americans who are putting their lives on the line every day fighting to preserve peace and democracy in Iraq and Afghanistan, and who operate small businesses that are the backbone of the American economy.<
So the rights of heterosexual people in the military, to be able to live in close quarters without being harassed, mean nothing? So, when some jerk makes a pass at a straight man, and gets punched in the nose, the jerk won’t go crying to his higher ups, because he’s been the victim of haterz?
The military will eventually have to extend benefits to "partners", such as medical,on base housing and death benefits.
At this point gays all over will petition for their rights, including marriage in civilian courts sighting the precedent set by the military.
nail on head.
this is about homosexuals pushing their agenda .
If they get this then they will say they want homo parties, parades on base, and then they leave they can say I can fight and die but can’t adopt or get married.
so over 70% of the population are ignored and about 95% of the military is ignored because 3% of the public who will not all join should be accepted.
I honestly think it’;s about time for them to understand and grow that their mental sexually sickness is not normal to most folks, to nature etc
is it just me or does the term “log cabin” conjure up a grotesque image?????
Yes, I do know gay people. No, I don’t care what they do.
No, I have not served. However, I have supported the military for 25 years. I have a child who is serving and she does not give a rats ass about what people do in their private time.
No, I don’t watch Oprah.
Yes, I use punctuation. Perhaps if you did, I would better be able to understand your questions and points you are trying to make.
Again, do you expect the gays to get it on during battle? Is that your concern? You didn’t answer the question, or if you did, it’s not coherent.
yes I expect to have homosexuals openly serving to get into having sex on base and yes if you had served of which you have not then you would know that we live in close quarters where there is not much privacy.
You again stated that you do not care about what homosexuals do, well that is your view but the fact is that homosexuals are all about sex and their sexual pleasure.
Now you might have a homosexual daughter or son and they might be serving and that is why you as a so called conservative will stick up for them but the fact remains that if this is implemented then it will cause all sorts of problems of which have been listed on this thread.
As for you saying you do not care what folks do in their privacy, well there is no argument form any of us about that, but like I said if you had served then you will know there is not much privacy in the military unless you’re an officer high up.
You would also understand that the guys in the marines and army etc will not be accepting homosexuals like you do.
For the record I will state this to you, homosexuality is a mental disorder and it doesn’t help when we have so called parents bringing up kids and saying well if you are comfortable doing that or being that then it’s OK with me.
I don’t understand why gays are so proud of being gay.You will not see heteros marching around in the streets saying “Proud to be straight”! Maybe we should.
That is so weak. Only gays have language skills...who knew?
I’m willing to bet that many of these diseases are passed on to straight people,since there are some gays who want to try their hand at sleeping w/a woman. The whole thing sickens me beyond words.
Sorry, that's counter-intuitive.
Nobody said only gays have language skills. But there are certain languages for which the military has a serious shortage of staff, and the military has nonetheless kicked out and turned away qualified gay people who have these language skills, even when there are no other disqualifying factors involved. If the military can afford to refrain from employing these people, then why does it still have shortages in these languages.
For a related matter, you should read yesterday’s Fox News article about the prevalence of homosexual behavior among Pashtun-speaking Afghans, even though they refuse to identify themselves as homosexual http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2439432/posts . Pashtun is one of the languages for which both the military and civilian intelligence services have difficulty recruiting fluent speakers. Given the cultural background, it’s not surprising that many native and first-generation American Pashtun-speakers would qualify as “homosexual” under the military definition.
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