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Report: Harsh winter a sign of climate change (More "Global Warming" insanity)
MSNBC ^ | 1/28/2010 | Juliet Eilperin and David A. Fahrenthold/WP

Posted on 01/28/2010 4:30:03 AM PST by tobyhill

This winter's extreme weather — with heavy snowfall in some places and unusually low temperatures — is in fact a sign of how climate change disrupts long-standing patterns, according to a new report by the National Wildlife Federation.

It comes at a time when, despite a wealth of scientific evidence, the American public is increasingly skeptical that climate change is happening at all. That disconnect is particularly important this year as the Obama administration and its allies in Congress seek to enact legislation to curb greenhouse gas emissions and revamp the nation's energy supply.

"It's very hard for any of us to grasp how this larger warming trend is happening when we're still having wintry weather," said National Wildlife Federation climate scientist Amanda Staudt, the new report's lead writer.

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agw; globalwarming
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To: tobyhill

Sooooo, what would have to happen in order to prove to these closed-minded Warmists that Global Warming *isn’t* happening?


21 posted on 01/28/2010 7:30:20 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (Marsha Coakley's been teabagged. Congrats Scott Brown! Mary Jo finally got even.)
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To: tobyhill
Heck! She doesn't need Cap and Trade. The hair and suit are sufficient!


22 posted on 01/28/2010 7:30:57 AM PST by Young Werther ( ("Quae Cum Ita Sunt - Julius Caesar "Since these things are so!"))
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To: tobyhill

surprise, surprise, surprise!


23 posted on 01/28/2010 7:32:02 AM PST by beagleone
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To: tobyhill

This is an el-nino year which moderates the winters in the Pacific Northwest. In Montana we have had temps of -30 with snow off and on (mostly on) since the end of November. Currently it is snowing and 8 degrees in Helena. I hate to see what our winter would have been like if the el-nino was not active. It is scary to think that next year we won’t have an el-nino to “moderate” the winter.


24 posted on 01/28/2010 7:45:09 AM PST by jesseam (Been there, done that)
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To: Young Werther
Absolutely, positively, NOT GUILTY! What was this thread about again?
25 posted on 01/28/2010 7:50:13 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP
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To: tobyhill

So let me get this straight: all the bitterly cold winters I experiencec as a child back in the fifties and sixties were also due to climate change aka AGW? What would these lunkheads have said back then? All the twenty and thirty below temps were signs of AGW? It’s amazing how supposedly educated people can delude themselves.


26 posted on 01/28/2010 7:54:28 AM PST by driftless2 (for long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion)
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To: tobyhill
The IPCC is falling apart because, among other things, it got caught including agitprop from the National Wildlife Federation in its last report. But here the NWF is again with its crackpot science.
27 posted on 01/28/2010 8:47:10 AM PST by Brugmansian
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

I’ve been told that my humor is quite cheeky BUTT that’s the way I see things.


28 posted on 01/28/2010 8:48:14 AM PST by Young Werther ( ("Quae Cum Ita Sunt - Julius Caesar "Since these things are so!"))
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To: VeniVidiVici
Sooooo, what would have to happen in order to prove to these closed-minded Warmists that Global Warming *isn’t* happening?

You can't prove a negative. The alarmists rely on that to keep the grant money rolling in.
29 posted on 01/28/2010 10:20:46 AM PST by CowboyJay (? - 2012)
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To: tobyhill

This whole steaming pile is astoundingly dishonest. They keep pretending that climate change and anthropogenic global warming are the same thing. They alternate between climate change and global warming to suit their case.


30 posted on 01/28/2010 11:59:02 AM PST by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a leftist is like trying to catch sunshine in a fish net at midnight.)
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To: tobyhill

Cold is actually hot.
Up is down.
Good is bad.

In other words; Deconstructionism.

http://204.11.47.158/article.asp?artID=73


31 posted on 01/28/2010 12:01:39 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (The End of an Error - 01/20/2013)
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To: tobyhill
I clicked through so I could read this scientific report. I got to this part

"At the same time global warming is shifting storm tracks northward.(15)"

I looked up reference 15, and like many others it is "USGCRP 2009". The WWF basically just regurgitated a bunch of government-created crap such as how there is now an anthropogenic "fingerprint" in atmospheric water vapor. Both the USGCRAP and the WWF reports are glossies full of fuzzy polar bear pictures and model-generated hockey sticks.

I looked through the USGCRAP for the storm track data and instead found the projections from a climate model: The projections suggest that rain-producing storms that normally affect the southwest United States will shift northward, making the region drier. Further work will be required to understand the reason for the shifts in the storm patterns. ( http://www.usgcrp.gov/usgcrp/Library/ocp2009/ocp2009-hi-clivar.htm)

So, no. It is not "global warming" shifting storm tracks northward, but rather models of global warming showing that storm tracks could shift northward. Quite a difference even if you believe the models.

32 posted on 01/28/2010 5:15:03 PM PST by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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