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Higher tobacco taxes push smokers to contraband cigarettes (20% of German Smokes Untaxed)
The Local.de ^ | 25 Jan 10

Posted on 01/27/2010 12:51:59 PM PST by GonzoII

An increasing number of German smokers are turning to contraband cigarettes in response to higher tobacco taxes, according to research published on Monday.

Between 2005 and 2008 the number of untaxed cigarettes smoked in Germany grew from 16 to 20 percent, according to Hamburg Institute of International Economics (HWWI) Director Thomas Straubhaar at a conference in Berlin.

Instead of reducing the number of cigarettes smoked, the tax has only increased the number of illegal cigarettes consumed – some 23 billion, according to Straubhaar.

The tax increase has also created an overall reduction in tax revenue earned on tobacco, HWWI expert Michael Bräuninger said, adding that he expected a continued increase in contraband cigarettes.

According to a study by the DZV German cigarette association presented at the event, the increase means a yearly loss of some €4 billion.

The highest number of banned smokes – most of which come from Poland – are consumed by eastern Germans, where every second cigarette is reportedly untaxed. Meanwhile every fifth cigarette in the state of North-Rhine Westphalia is contraband.

At about €140 per thousand cigarettes, Germany has Europe’s fourth highest tobacco tax after Ireland, England and France.

DDP/The Local (news@thelocal.de)

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Germany; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: germany; sintax; taxes; tobacco
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The Poles, Hungarians etc. say "Danke" for the input!!
1 posted on 01/27/2010 12:52:00 PM PST by GonzoII
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How long until we start seeing people growing their own tobacco plants?


2 posted on 01/27/2010 12:54:57 PM PST by mnehring
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To: GonzoII
Welcome to the club

When I can longer get them from my "native American" source, I will look to Europe next. lol

3 posted on 01/27/2010 12:55:18 PM PST by Conservative Vermont Vet ((One of ONLY 37 Conservatives in the People's Republic of Vermont. Socialists and Progressives All))
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To: GonzoII
The tax increase has also created an overall reduction in tax revenue earned on tobacco, […].
Funny how this works, eh? Stupid politicians.
4 posted on 01/27/2010 1:05:10 PM PST by cartan
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To: GonzoII

Two weeks before the new taxes kicked in, I went out and bought $300 worth of RYO supplies. I still have about a pound of tobacco left, which will last a good, long while since I’m using e-cigs now and smoke two analog cigarettes per day.

So whatever the gov’t was getting from my pack-a-day American Spirit habit, they’re getting nothing now. And I’ll see to it that they get nothing from me ever again.


5 posted on 01/27/2010 1:10:34 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: mnehring

“How long until we start seeing people growing their own tobacco plants?”

...that kind of back yard gardening is going on right now...there were pictures posted on FR several months ago...in my area(NC)some smokers are buying bundles of leaf from farmers and rolling their own or going back to pipes.


6 posted on 01/27/2010 1:23:34 PM PST by STONEWALLS
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To: mnehring

If cigs are so deadly why does the governmnet make more from a pack than the tobbacco companies?


7 posted on 01/27/2010 1:24:39 PM PST by edzo4 (NoBama 2012)
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To: STONEWALLS

I just noticed you can buy a wide variety of seeds on Amazon pretty cheaply.


8 posted on 01/27/2010 1:29:42 PM PST by mnehring
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To: cartan; GonzoII
Instead of reducing the number of cigarettes smoked, the tax has only increased the number of illegal cigarettes consumed – some 23 billion, according to Straubhaar.

The tax increase has also created an overall reduction in tax revenue earned on tobacco, HWWI expert Michael Bräuninger said, adding that he expected a continued increase in contraband cigarettes.

A perfect demonstration of Laaffer’s principle that increasing taxes reduces tax receipts.

9 posted on 01/27/2010 1:30:34 PM PST by Pontiac
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To: Pontiac
A perfect demonstration of Laaffer’s principle that increasing taxes reduces tax receipts.

"Voodoo economics" Bush the Elder.

10 posted on 01/27/2010 1:32:05 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: STONEWALLS

I just noticed you can buy a wide variety of seeds on Amazon pretty cheaply.


11 posted on 01/27/2010 1:32:43 PM PST by mnehring
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To: mnehring

oops, weird double post


12 posted on 01/27/2010 1:33:11 PM PST by mnehring
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To: STONEWALLS

Another option is unflavored pipe tobacco. It’s the same tobacco, just a different cut. And it was exempted from the tax hikes (for now).

Just cut it up a little more and it’s the same as RYO tobacco.


13 posted on 01/27/2010 1:39:40 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: GonzoII

**An increasing number of German smokers are turning to contraband cigarettes in response to higher tobacco taxes, according to research published on Monday. ***

Don’t they have Indian Smoke Shops in germany like they do on the Indian reservations and Oklahoma lands here?;-)


14 posted on 01/27/2010 1:47:46 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Compasion overload can wait! People need help NOW!)
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"Don’t they have Indian Smoke Shops in germany like they do on the Indian reservations and Oklahoma lands here?;-)"

All cigarettes are, for the most part, the same price or not much difference among them.

Rolling your own is the best way to save but it's expensive also.

15 posted on 01/27/2010 1:53:32 PM PST by GonzoII ("That they may be one...Father")
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To: GonzoII
No, all cigarettes are, for the most part....
16 posted on 01/27/2010 1:55:05 PM PST by GonzoII ("That they may be one...Father")
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To: edzo4

Because to the federal oligarchs, collecting taxes is a higher priority than whether you live or die. Oh, I know, that is insane, the thing taxed is going to terminate a tax payer, yet the federal oligarchs continue to keep the deadly substance legal so they can collect taxes on it. But consider also that once cigs kill, the federal coffers no longer have to pay social subsidies to the smoker ... and that’s why no ‘safe’ cigarette will ever be developed: can’t do anything to change the demographics and have smoker live longer than their potential to feed the tax coffers don’tchaknow.


17 posted on 01/27/2010 2:02:31 PM PST by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
I think Germans can purchase tax free cigarettes from Visigoth reservations:)
18 posted on 01/27/2010 2:03:01 PM PST by Ken H (Debt free is the way to be)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

“Another option is unflavored pipe tobacco. It’s the same tobacco, just a different cut. And it was exempted from the tax hikes (for now).”

Really? They raised in on the roll your own for cigarettes.
A 15.95 bag now costs over $40.00.

Do you know a good source for pipe tobacco?


19 posted on 01/27/2010 2:04:41 PM PST by AuntB (If Al Qaeda grew drugs & burned our forests instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: Pontiac

Cigarettes are only the tip of the tax dodge ice berg. Germany has a thriving underground services market. “Under the table”/for cash/after normal hours mechanical work, carpentry, etc is rampant.


20 posted on 01/27/2010 2:09:21 PM PST by Red Dog #1
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