Obamacare Is Dead and Here's Why [Obamacare Ongoing Thread]

Town Hall ^ | 1-26-10 | Robert A. Levy

[JustPiper]

As the Massachusetts blame game unfolds, the president’s unpopular health bill leads the list. But the substantive provisions of the bill were just part of the problem. Perhaps more important, voters were appalled by how the deal unfolded.

Consider the pre-election giveaway to the labor unions. Negotiators agreed to exempt union contracts until 2018 from the tax on so-called Cadillac health-insurance plans. That backroom bargain not only outraged the voters, it also violated the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution, requiring the federal government to extend equal protection of the laws to all U.S. persons. Of course, not all voters understood the constitutional nuances, but they sensed that something was very wrong; and they reacted.

I have been disturbed by the socialists for years, ever since I learned many members of Congress 'openly' joined the DSA (Democratic Socialists of America). Several years ago, the names were published on the DSA site. (since removed of course) Please post any info you have, many of you have been on this issue for many years, & if we can store it all on one thread, we have our FreeRepublic Warehouse on the enemies of the state. How DO we combat this, when it's coming at us from every angle? When the people have been asleep for decades. Please post anything you have found or accumulated. Also choose a dictator these people follow, of particular interest,those in D.C. who have been quoted with their adulation of one.

Communism- Marxism-Leninism-Stalinism-Trotskyism-Maoism- Hoxhaism-Hoxhaism-Titoism ETC

[JustPiper]

Open ended entitlement

[JustPiper]

KILL THE BILL! KILL THE BILL! KILL THE BILL! Jon took em in alrighty

[thouworm]

FOX INTERRUPTED RYAN to go to commercial-——idiots who have no sense of the moment

[JustPiper]

Boehner speaking for us Seniors

[stephenjohnbanker]

“We still have our guns and concealed carry, Oregon liberals still like their firearms and we have a very active gun lobby in the state.”

This is a good thing, Blackie.

Me? California (1976-2006)

Arizona ain’t bad ;-)

[MestaMachine]

Still on the live feed. Ryan said the dems DON’T have the votes....yet
Tea partiers in there cheering!

[JustPiper]

Boehner demanding an out loud rollcall tomorrow, oh tomorrow will be.....

Fill in the blankety blank

[JustPiper]

tis why I got it streaming -g-

[thouworm]

Question comment from LIVE thread:

What? Did I just hear this right? In the House Rules Committee, it was just noted the costs of the extra personnel for the IRS are not accounted for in the bill?!

[MestaMachine]

Boehner called it armageddon! Oh Lord, help us!

[JustPiper]

KILL THE BILL! KILL THE BILL! KILL THE BILL!

Would love to hear how that’s resonating there with echo!

[MestaMachine]

Yeah, that is right. The costs for the IRS and the doc fix were not in the CBO report either.

[HiTech RedNeck]

And there’s got to be more yet even without figuring in cost overruns and snafus. All this legerdemain to make it look like it’s a money saver when the salient expenses are not all being looked at.

[HiTech RedNeck]

Well we know who wins in Armageddon.

[thouworm]

http://republican.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Blogs.View&Blog_Id=cbd6f99a-426d-4635-bde1-f28d1afbc057

Even the Administration’s Chief Actuary at HHS cannot provide cost analysis of latest Democrat health spending bill before the vote

Chief Actuary: ‘I regret that my staff and I will not be able to prepare our analysis within this very tight time frame, due to the complexity of the legislation.’

WASHINGTON, DC – The Obama administration’s chief actuary at the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) notified Republican leaders Saturday that the “very tight time frame” and “complexity” of the Democrats’ health spending bill would prevent them from fully analyzing the costs and efficacy of the bill before the House voted on the legislation. The letter was in response to a request from House and Senate Republicans.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2475327/posts?page=595#595

[JustPiper]

http://interactive.foxnews.com/livestream/live.html?chanId=5

voting on motion to suspend

[HiTech RedNeck]

Rats are getting antsy about those hokey numbers again?

[JustPiper]

[JustPiper]

I agree, it’s a pysch, they just keep touting CBO

to me that means Can’T Believe Obama

[thouworm]

House Drops Deem and Pass? [Daniel Foster]

We’ve been baited. And here’s the switch, from a Washington Post news alert:

House Democratic leaders say they will take a separate vote on the Senate health care bill, rejecting an earlier, much-criticized strategy that would have permitted them to “deem” the measure passed without an explicit vote.

This is good news for the Constitution and transparency in government. I’m not sure if its good news for defeating Obamacare.

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