Obamacare Is Dead and Here's Why [Obamacare Ongoing Thread]

Town Hall ^ | 1-26-10 | Robert A. Levy

[JustPiper]

As the Massachusetts blame game unfolds, the president’s unpopular health bill leads the list. But the substantive provisions of the bill were just part of the problem. Perhaps more important, voters were appalled by how the deal unfolded.

Consider the pre-election giveaway to the labor unions. Negotiators agreed to exempt union contracts until 2018 from the tax on so-called Cadillac health-insurance plans. That backroom bargain not only outraged the voters, it also violated the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution, requiring the federal government to extend equal protection of the laws to all U.S. persons. Of course, not all voters understood the constitutional nuances, but they sensed that something was very wrong; and they reacted.

I have been disturbed by the socialists for years, ever since I learned many members of Congress 'openly' joined the DSA (Democratic Socialists of America). Several years ago, the names were published on the DSA site. (since removed of course) Please post any info you have, many of you have been on this issue for many years, & if we can store it all on one thread, we have our FreeRepublic Warehouse on the enemies of the state. How DO we combat this, when it's coming at us from every angle? When the people have been asleep for decades. Please post anything you have found or accumulated. Also choose a dictator these people follow, of particular interest,those in D.C. who have been quoted with their adulation of one.

Communism- Marxism-Leninism-Stalinism-Trotskyism-Maoism- Hoxhaism-Hoxhaism-Titoism ETC

[thouworm]

Saturday, March 20, 2010

Military Plans Not Protected Under Obamacare? [Daniel Foster]

From GOP.gov:

Background: On March 18, 2010, just days before the House votes on the Democrats’ government takeover of health care, House Armed Services Committee Chairman Ike Skelton (D-MO) announced he would introduce legislation to preemptively state that TRICARE and the Department of Defense non-appropriated fund (NAF) health plans meet all of the health care requirements currently under consideration by Congress for individual health insurance. TRICARE and the NAF health plans programs provide health coverage to members of the military and their families, military retirees and their families, and employees of U.S. military post/base exchanges. Chairman Skelton even stated he would also insert this legislative language into the national defense authorization bill, reiterating the threat the health care bill currently poses to military health plans. This is an explicit admission that the final Democrat health care bill does not protect these plans.

Military Protections Scrapped: The Senate-passed health care bill, which the House is expected to “deem” passed on March 21, 2010, omitted protections for military health plans that were included in the House bill. Specifically, the Senate language does not appear to give the Department of Veterans’ Affairs (VA) health care system specific protection from interference by other government agencies administering the various authorities contained in the massive bill, as it pertains to “minimum essential coverage.” The minimum essential coverage language in the Senate bill does cover “the veterans health care program under chapter 17 of title 38, United States Code,” but it is unclear whether that covers veterans’ survivors and dependents.

The final bill would leave it up to a bureaucrat at the Department of the Treasury to determine whether TRICARE meets the minimum standards under the Democrats’ individual health insurance mandate. If that bureaucrat decides against TRICARE, service members and their families would have to buy some other health coverage or pay a penalty.

In an effort to bolster support for the House health care takeover back in August 2009, the White House advertised that bill’s exemption for 9.2 million military personnel, families, and retirees covered under TRICARE and the military health plan. In August, the White House website stated that:

Health reform legislation that is being considered would enable those who are covered by TRICARE to meet the shared responsibility requirement for individuals to have insurance, thereby exempting such members of the uniformed services and dependants from being assessed penalties. If enacted, the President will ensure that this exemption is implemented aggressively.

Of course, the final health care bill does not include this promised exemption for military plans.

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[JustPiper]

FUBO

From the pic...last time we had people backed up to the Monument, wonder if they all ran into your problem? :(

[yield 2 the right]

Bookmarked for quick read.

[MestaMachine]

Lost Fox feed. Carl Cameron waiting to go on air.
I don’t have enough hands, ears, or eyes here.

[JustPiper]

My eyes 217-214?!

[MestaMachine]

Fox just flashed new whip tally. Dems say they have 217. Enough to pass

[JustPiper]

I know, magnify that by 30 years -g-

[thouworm]

Drudge just got out of bed.

RULES COMMITTEE MEETING DECENDS INTO CHAOS

[HiTech RedNeck]

So why don’t they jump on it and vote immediately

[MestaMachine]

I gonna go barf now. be right back....

[MestaMachine]

Rules committee is still in session. Got nothing to vote on yet!

[thouworm]

From the HayRide.com

Meanwhile, Michael Barone at the Washington Examiner goes through the FireDogLake numbers, and he concludes as Ryan has that without Stupak’s 11 votes (it was 12, but it’s 11 now) Pelosi just can’t get to 216.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/The-state-of-play-in-the-House-88725462.html

[JustPiper]

Ahahaha, hangover no doubt!

I got to see da fight first hand, go Conservs in COMM! Will make great news to post here later

~per Carl Dims Running for the Hills?

[blackie]

Hello there!!

[HiTech RedNeck]

217 have faith in Nancy’s promises then? The fixit is still vaporware.

[JustPiper]

Excellent observation!

[JustPiper]

SM! you’re Back! Yay!

[blackie]

Oregon loves ØbamaCare...we’re loaded with kool-aid drinking libtards...

God save us!!

[JustPiper]

Four More ‘No’ Votes Switch to ‘Yes’

Florida Rep. Allen Boyd, Ohio Rep. John Boccieri, Florida Rep. Suzanne Kosmas, and New York’s very own Scott Murphy. The Representatives cited several different reasons for changing their votes, including CBO’s estimate that the bill with cut the deficit by $138 billion. Curiously, none of them mentioned the late-night horse-trading. Curious!

[MestaMachine]

Gonna now take a zanax. Just kidding. Wish I drank or something. Alka seltzer time.