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Obamacare Is Dead and Here's Why [Obamacare Ongoing Thread]
Town Hall ^ | 1-26-10 | Robert A. Levy

Posted on 01/25/2010 11:27:02 PM PST by JustPiper

As the Massachusetts blame game unfolds, the president’s unpopular health bill leads the list. But the substantive provisions of the bill were just part of the problem. Perhaps more important, voters were appalled by how the deal unfolded.

Consider the pre-election giveaway to the labor unions. Negotiators agreed to exempt union contracts until 2018 from the tax on so-called Cadillac health-insurance plans. That backroom bargain not only outraged the voters, it also violated the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution, requiring the federal government to extend equal protection of the laws to all U.S. persons. Of course, not all voters understood the constitutional nuances, but they sensed that something was very wrong; and they reacted.

I have been disturbed by the socialists for years, ever since I learned many members of Congress 'openly' joined the DSA (Democratic Socialists of America). Several years ago, the names were published on the DSA site. (since removed of course) Please post any info you have, many of you have been on this issue for many years, & if we can store it all on one thread, we have our FreeRepublic Warehouse on the enemies of the state. How DO we combat this, when it's coming at us from every angle? When the people have been asleep for decades. Please post anything you have found or accumulated. Also choose a dictator these people follow, of particular interest,those in D.C. who have been quoted with their adulation of one.

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Frantic Obama Plan’s Sunday ObamaCare Vote!

ALERT: Obama and House Democrats are forcing a “suicide run” on ObamaCare with a Sunday vote but are still short the 216 votes they need to pass ObamaCare. Pelosi’s plan is to break down Blue Dog holdouts is in a desperate last ditch effort with a vote on the floor of the House. If they don’t have the votes, they will allow the measure to be defeated.

TELL ALL 261 Democrat/Independent Representatives, Blue Dog Democrats AND President Obama To KILL THIS BILL and CUT HealthCare COSTS FIRST.

But Pelosi is keeping America guessing as no one knows just what will be presented on the floor. Is it a modified Senate Bill or Budget Reconciliation or the unconstitutional “Slaughter Solution,” the scheme to ram ObamaCare through and bypass an actual vote in the House and Senate on ObamaCare?

Stop The ObamaCare Slaughter-House Rule
The “self-executing” rule is, “the ultimate in Washington power grabs.”

Shamefully, Obama, Pelosi and Reid are using strong arm tactics and are buying votes with empty promises to House Democrats. They say they will change the bill after passage to remove special deals to individual states, cut healthcare costs, save Medicare benefits and include government run healthcare with the public option.

This is outrageous and exactly what Americans do not want. FAX NOW AND OFTEN AND MAKE CALLS TO CONGRESS. We need your continued help more than ever as Socialized Health Care MUST STILL Be Stopped.

TELL KEY CONGRESSMEN LISTED BELOW TO VOTE NO: Fax, Call and Even Personally Visit Each in their Offices in Washington DC:

PLEASE CALL! DC OFFICE LOCAL OFFICE State District
Harry Mitchell (202) 225-2190 (480) 946-2411 AZ 5th District
Gabrielle Giffords (202) 225-2542 (520) 881-3588 AZ 8th District
Ann Kirkpatrick (202) 225-2315 (928) 226-6914 AZ 1st District
Jerry McNerney (202) 225-1947 925-833-0643 CA 11th District
John Salazar 202-225-4761 970-245-7107 CO 3rd District
Jim Himes (202) 225-5541 (866) 453-0028 CT 4th District
Alan Grayson (202) 225-2176 (407) 841-1757 FL 8th District
Bill Foster (202) 225-2976 630-406-1114 IL 14th District
Baron Hill 202 225 5315 812 288 3999 IN 9th District
Mark Schauer (202) 225-6276 (517) 780-9075 MI 7th District
Gary Peters (202) 225-5802 (248) 273-4227 MI 9th District
Dina Titus (202) 225-3252 702-256-DINA (3462) NV 3rd District
Carol Shea-Porter (202) 225-5456 (603) 743-4813 NH 1st District
Tim Bishop (202) 225-3949 (631) 696-6500 NY 1st District
John Hall (202) 225-5441 (845) 225-3641 x49371 NY 19th District
Bill Owens (202) 225-4611 (315) 782-3150 NY 23rd District
Mike Arcuri (202)225-3665 (315)793-8146 NY 24th District
Dan Maffei (202) 225-3701 (315) 423-5657 NY 25th District
Earl Pomeroy (202) 225-2611 (701) 224-0355 ND At-Large District
Steven Driehaus (202) 225-2216 (513) 684-2723 OH 1st District
Mary Jo Kilroy (202) 225-2015 (614) 294-2196 OH 15th District
Zach Space (202) 225-6265 (330) 364-4300 OH 18th District
Kathy Dahlkemper (202) 225-5406 (814) 456-2038 PA 3rd District
Patrick Murphy (202) 225-4276 (215) 826-1963 PA 8th District
Christopher Carney (202) 225-3731 (570) 585-9988 PA 10th District
Paul Kanjorski (202) 225-6511 (570) 825-2200 PA 11th District
John Spratt (202) 225-5501 (803)327-1114 SC 5th District
Tom Perriello (202) 225-4711 (276) 656-2291 VA 5th District
Alan Mollohan (202) 225-4172 (304) 623-4422 WVA 1st District
Nick Rahall (202) 225-3452 (304) 252-5000 WVA 3rd District
Steve Kagen (202) 225-5665 (920) 437-1954 WI 8th District

www.AmeriPac.org


1,241 posted on 03/19/2010 1:32:10 PM PDT by JustPiper (Obamacare ONGOING THREAD~ "Don't let the bastards grind you down")
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To: JustPiper; CWW; SE Mom
The 5 DEMS THAT WILL DETERMINE OBAMACARE!!!

1. Lincoln Davis (Tenn) -- Went from "no" to undecided. But the Governor of Tennessee is putting the heat on him to vote no.

2. Jason Altmire (PA) --UPDATE: Will oppose bill (see post #1239). Has publicly criticized the Slaughter rule and voted no in committee and on floor on the original bill.

3. Pete Defazio (NY) -- Announced today that he's voting against. DeFazio also voted agasint the stimulus bill.

4. Glenn Nye (VA) -- Nye voted no in on the first bill. He is also in a conservative district that includes Virginia Beach and Norfolk (basically the Eastern Shore). Nye is also in a tough re-election race.

5. Suzanne Kosmos (Fla)-- She's getting hammered. She's a freshman from New Smyrna Beach, Fla., and she eeked out a victory in a conservative district that McCain carried over Obama in 2008. Her job in on the line.

1,242 posted on 03/19/2010 1:32:32 PM PDT by thouworm
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To: combat_boots

Exactly why I won’t sign my license Bootsies


1,243 posted on 03/19/2010 1:33:14 PM PDT by JustPiper (Obamacare ONGOING THREAD~ "Don't let the bastards grind you down")
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To: MestaMachine

Altmire is in the news alot lately


1,244 posted on 03/19/2010 1:33:53 PM PDT by JustPiper (Obamacare ONGOING THREAD~ "Don't let the bastards grind you down")
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To: thouworm
I don't know, tis my 2nd passion, check out the first 100 posts -g- I'm just glad I pinged you! TY for the links! Keep em coming!

Want on this pinglist?

If you would like to be added/removed from this pinglist email me

1,245 posted on 03/19/2010 1:36:16 PM PDT by JustPiper (Obamacare ONGOING THREAD~ "Don't let the bastards grind you down")
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To: thouworm

I now appoint you the Drudge gal, cause I can’t get there hardly, this cool?


1,246 posted on 03/19/2010 1:37:16 PM PDT by JustPiper (Obamacare ONGOING THREAD~ "Don't let the bastards grind you down")
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To: thouworm; MestaMachine; caww

~ping to Altmire


1,247 posted on 03/19/2010 1:38:05 PM PDT by JustPiper (Obamacare ONGOING THREAD~ "Don't let the bastards grind you down")
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To: combat_boots

Bless You! It’s become a whole new ballgame!


1,248 posted on 03/19/2010 1:39:02 PM PDT by JustPiper (Obamacare ONGOING THREAD~ "Don't let the bastards grind you down")
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To: thouworm; MestaMachine; caww

Altmire a SURE thing for real? Wow, can’t believe how fast these votes are coming!


1,249 posted on 03/19/2010 1:40:54 PM PDT by JustPiper (Obamacare ONGOING THREAD~ "Don't let the bastards grind you down")
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where are they since this time?

Cave-in Watch
By Michelle Malkin • March 19, 2010 12:28 PM

Ohio Democrats Charlie Wilson and John Boccieri have caved.

Nevada Democrat Dina Titus is a yes.

Six pro-life Democrats led by West Virginia Democrat Rep. Nick Rahall are getting ready to sell out for a chump promise.

Fox News asks: One down, one to go?

On the no side: Mass. Democrat Rep. Stephen Lynch.

NY Democrat Michael Arcurri is a no.

WaPo: Who’s in play: House health-care vote – How members voted on health-care legislation Nov. 7, where they stand now and who is still undecided.

http://michellemalkin.com/2010/03/19/cave-in-watch/


1,250 posted on 03/19/2010 1:43:08 PM PDT by JustPiper (Obamacare ONGOING THREAD~ "Don't let the bastards grind you down")
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To: JustPiper
Drudge gal

Seemed he had been asleep at the wheel these past several months, but he seems to be making up for lost time and is all over the Thugocrats' plunge into insanity.

1,251 posted on 03/19/2010 1:46:32 PM PDT by thouworm
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To: presently no screen name; 1COUNTER-MORTER-68; dixiechick2000; politicalmerc; The Cajun; ...

The Demcare bribe list, Pt. III
http://michellemalkin.com/2010/03/19/the-demcare-bribe-list-pt-iii/

Pelosi Tactic for Health-Care Vote Would Raise Legal Questions
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aTQARvST4dv8

Taxpayer march on Washington: Saturday high noon
By Michelle Malkin
http://michellemalkin.com/2010/03/19/taxpayer-march-on-washington-saturday-high-noon/


1,252 posted on 03/19/2010 1:47:19 PM PDT by JustPiper (Obamacare ONGOING THREAD~ "Don't let the bastards grind you down")
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To: thouworm

I monitor Michelle & about 200 other places lol


1,253 posted on 03/19/2010 1:47:56 PM PDT by JustPiper (Obamacare ONGOING THREAD~ "Don't let the bastards grind you down")
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The Criminal Left on HC

Couric/CBS

The Longest Suicide Note In History! Democrat’s Healthcare Bill

House leaders announce $940 billion health-care compromise bill

The abortion language in President Obama's health care reform bill has ignited a holy war among Catholics, sharply dividing them on whether the legislation would subsidize the termination of pregnancies.

Holy War Erupts Among Catholics Over Abortion Language in Health Care Bill

Hang in there, Rep. Stupak By Michelle Malkin

Stupak: Health fight has been 'living hell’

Video: Know the TRUTH about the Government Health Care Bill H.R.3280

1,254 posted on 03/19/2010 1:54:02 PM PDT by JustPiper (Obamacare ONGOING THREAD~ "Don't let the bastards grind you down")
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To: JustPiper; MestaMachine; caww

The promised statement in opposition to ObamaCare has been posted on his website.
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Altmire Statement on Upcoming Health Care Vote

March 19, 2010

“I ran for Congress in large part because I believe we need to find a way to bring down the cost of health care. I also ran for Congress with a simple promise: I would do my best to represent my district and to give western Pennsylvania a voice in Washington, not the other way around.

“I regret that this year-long process of debating health care reform has resulted in a final product that I cannot support. The cost of inaction on health care is great, but it would be an even bigger mistake to pass a bill that could compound the problem of skyrocketing health care costs.

“Simply moving money around within the existing system, rather than enacting real delivery system reform, might change who pays the bill, but it does not improve the quality of care or reduce costs for families, small businesses, or the federal government. It creates a system of winners and losers, rather than reforming the system in a way that lets everyone win. It is estimated that after passage of this bill, federal health care expenditures would likely increase above what they would under current law.

“It has become clear that the vast majority of my constituents want me to oppose this bill. Particularly hard hit would be western Pennsylvania’s Medicare beneficiaries, which many experts believe would experience dramatic premium increases with enactment of this bill.

“I am acutely aware that my decision to vote against the health care bill will disappoint some of my constituents and alienate supporters of the bill. The politically easy vote would have been to vote with my party. But I was not sent to Congress to take the easy way out or to vote the way they want me to vote in Washington. I was elected to represent my district and give western Pennsylvania a voice in Congress. I strongly believe that a vote in opposition to the health care bill is consistent with the views of the district I represent, and is the correct vote based on the impact of the bill on my constituents and the overall health care system.”

http://altmire.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=591:altmire-statement-on-upcoming-health-care-vote&catid=21


1,255 posted on 03/19/2010 1:55:10 PM PDT by thouworm
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To: JustPiper

Altmire has been pretty popular in his district. Maybe he will stick with it.
Pelosi is burning her candle at both ends. Eventually, the candle will burn out. She has effed this up so royally that it couldn’t get much more effed up. Everyone is realizing they have been lied to by their own leadership. The lies can’t stay hidden anymore. She can’t whisper sweet nothings in someone’s ear and expect it to remain a deep dark secret.
She sez. Then abubama sez. Then reid sez. Then gibby sez. None of them sez the same thing. They have lost any credibility. ALL of them.


1,256 posted on 03/19/2010 1:58:38 PM PDT by MestaMachine (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2426869/posts SUPPORT RINO FREE AMERICA)
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Conservative Take

Republicans assail IRS provision in health care bill

Sen. Gregg on 'Deem and Pass' Strategy in Health Care: 'Incomprehensible'

I’ll say he kicks “arse” so as to make it fancy pants, as befitting one who is made totally of awesome. Switch your vote in exchange for some cushy appointment, as is the Chicago Way? Guess again. The Oklahoma Way will stop you.

Senator Tom Coburn Kicks You Know What

Glenn Beck: Will it pass? Steve King (IA)

Steve King: Let’s flood the Capitol with Patriots at Noon on Saturday

Mike Pence on HCR: We can win this fight!

1,257 posted on 03/19/2010 1:59:12 PM PDT by JustPiper (Obamacare ONGOING THREAD~ "Don't let the bastards grind you down")
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To: MestaMachine

She has effed this up so royally that it couldn’t get much more effed up.

~I trust your judgment & asking from your lips to God’s will


1,258 posted on 03/19/2010 2:00:18 PM PDT by JustPiper (Obamacare ONGOING THREAD~ "Don't let the bastards grind you down")
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To: thouworm

NOT in stone until it comes to the actual vote. Looking good so far. Heat is wayyyy on here in PA. Swear to G-d!
Fire it UP!


1,259 posted on 03/19/2010 2:00:59 PM PDT by MestaMachine (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2426869/posts SUPPORT RINO FREE AMERICA)
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1,260 posted on 03/19/2010 2:01:44 PM PDT by JustPiper (Obamacare ONGOING THREAD~ "Don't let the bastards grind you down")
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