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Menifee school panel will review banned dictionary
The Press-Enterprise ^ | 1/24/10 | DUANE W. GANG, DAYNA STRAEHLEY and SARAH BURGE

Posted on 01/25/2010 11:51:13 AM PST by cold666pack

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For some reason I see this as very discriminatory. I mean why ban the dictionary cuz it defines oral sex, while every day inthe news we hear about tea bagging?
1 posted on 01/25/2010 11:51:13 AM PST by cold666pack
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To: cold666pack

My dictionary has oral sex in it it says see Bill Clinton


2 posted on 01/25/2010 11:53:56 AM PST by al baby (Hi Mom sarc ;))
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The Menifee Union School District is forming a committee to review whether dictionaries containing the definitions for sexual terms should be permanently banned from the district's classrooms, a district official said Friday.

But at the same time, they will teach third-graders every specific detail of homosexual sex.

Actually, this makes sense to the Left. They want to be the ones to tell you what things mean - you don't need no steenkin dictionary. It's like in Europe when the Bible was in Latin, and none of the peasants spoke or read Latin, and the Church's attitude was, "Why do you need to read the Bible? We'll tell you what it says - and what it means."

3 posted on 01/25/2010 12:01:00 PM PST by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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Exactly, its like throwing the baby out with the bathwater. It encourages parents to allow a ‘let the village raise your kid” instead of answering the kids question like an adult should.


4 posted on 01/25/2010 12:05:08 PM PST by cold666pack (Sometimes you gotta kick the darkness as hard as you can till the light shines through)
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A memo from the district's assistant superintendent for curriculum and instruction this week called the Merriam-Webster dictionary a respected resource but noted district officials found that "a number of referenced words are age-inappropriate."

The American Library Ass. does not believe in the concept of "age appropriate" books. Just as Planned Parnethood, GLSEN, SEICUS, et al do not believe in a concept of "age appropriate" sexual activity.

Anything goes. Any age. Any time. No moral judgements.

5 posted on 01/25/2010 12:08:06 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Keep on truckin', Senator Brown.)
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To: al baby

I think even the most bland dictionary made specifically for fourth graders has to have some mention of sex in it. I mean, at what age do kids wonder where babies come from?


6 posted on 01/25/2010 12:10:53 PM PST by cold666pack (Sometimes you gotta kick the darkness as hard as you can till the light shines through)
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Thank you Bill Clinton. I wonder if the definition includes a note: “see also Lewinsky”


7 posted on 01/25/2010 12:10:58 PM PST by BreitbartSentMe (Ex-Dem since 2001 *Folding@Home for the Gipper - Join the FReeper Folders*)
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This really has nothing to do with Bill Clinton. There has been oral sex happening for a long time before he managed to get it in the mainstream. I think conservatives tend to lose sight of the bigger picture hear which is preventing kids from educating themselves. From seeking out information. Its stupid to reference bill clinton when the bigger issue at hand is not oral xes, but instead censorship.


8 posted on 01/25/2010 12:17:11 PM PST by cold666pack (Sometimes you gotta kick the darkness as hard as you can till the light shines through)
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The decision was made without consultation with the district’s school board and has raised concerns among First Amendment experts and some parents.
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The very concept of having government schools at all should sound First Amendment alarm bells. Government schools and the First Amendment and freedom of conscience are utterly incompatible!

Let’s examine this one issue:

There are only **two** possible choices for this government school. They allow the dictionaries or they replace them. It is a binary decision. No matter which decision is made the freedom of conscience of some of the parents will be trampled.

As for the taxpayer they will be forced to pay for it regardless of their religious, political, or cultural beliefs.


9 posted on 01/25/2010 12:18:30 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid!)
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so...your answer is to ban govt. schools then? thats helpful/sarcasm.

Im no fan of public schools but they are here to stay so why not try a more reasonable solution? Maybe actually talking to your kids about words they may hear on the playground?


10 posted on 01/25/2010 12:23:28 PM PST by cold666pack (Sometimes you gotta kick the darkness as hard as you can till the light shines through)
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I am annoyed that of all things, there is a lack of good reading and media material in schools today. Nobody seems to be interested in creating or distributing it, though it is not insanely expensive, and would be very instructive.

To start with, in the 1960s, Disney Corporation put out a lot of educational films that are still remembered fondly today, because they showed children of that time wonders around the world that children of today don’t ever see. Everything from the “I’m No Fool” safety series, to The Vanishing Prairie, The Living Desert, and White Wilderness.

Yet with all the amazing wonders of the world, this just isn’t being done anymore.

As far as books go, titles that should be in every school library should include:

1) A collection of biographies of great and important Americans.
2) An introduction to the tribes and empires of the Americas in pre-history.
3) A guide to the United States constitution, and its interpretation.
4) A heavily illustrated outline of world history in multimedia.
5) A survey of the American Military and Military-Industrial Complex. 6) A survey of American Agribusiness, Industry and Mining.
7) Histories of American Art, Culture and Music.
8) American wars and conflicts in history.
9) Religion in America, and a survey of religions.
10) A study of immigrant migration to America.


11 posted on 01/25/2010 12:23:31 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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yes, I am of the thinking that more books rather than less books is a good way to go.


12 posted on 01/25/2010 12:33:00 PM PST by cold666pack (Sometimes you gotta kick the darkness as hard as you can till the light shines through)
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My dictionary has oral sex in it it says see Bill Clinton

My dictionary doesn't have paid advertisements. I wonder how much it cost Bill to get that ad in the book. "For 'oral sex' contact Bill Clinton (501) 374-4242"

13 posted on 01/25/2010 12:52:18 PM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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Moreover, it is a referrence book. What kid is randomly wandering through the dictionary? I bet the parent was looking for something to complain about. This is absolutely nuts. No reason for this sort of nonsense. Man people can be soooo stoopid


14 posted on 01/25/2010 1:04:54 PM PST by the long march
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And not a single one of your cited works is a dictionary. How in the world does one learn to look up words, find roots, find parts of speech, or even grammer instructions without such an aid.

This is overreaction of the extreme kind. Dictionaries ( even a collegiate one) should be available to students. You build vocabulary by using words. One of the aids in that is a good doctionary. I grew up with an unabridged Oxford’s that I was free to roam through at will. Words will not turn you into a monster.


15 posted on 01/25/2010 1:08:50 PM PST by the long march
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The worst thing is that this is being BLAMED on right wingers. All the comments seem to think (perhaps correctly i dont know) that this is a right wing reactionary idiot doing the whining and it also is smearing all Christians with the same brush when I highly doubt that is the crux of the issue.


16 posted on 01/25/2010 1:16:41 PM PST by cold666pack (Sometimes you gotta kick the darkness as hard as you can till the light shines through)
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To: the long march

On a side note, I do remember as a kid looking up the word “bitch” as well as ‘fellatio’ - and dare I say it was not a gateway to hell.


17 posted on 01/25/2010 1:17:58 PM PST by cold666pack (Sometimes you gotta kick the darkness as hard as you can till the light shines through)
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Yeah I have no idea of which single parent decided to get their knickers in a twist over this. But whoever it is needs to check their own motives


18 posted on 01/25/2010 1:24:53 PM PST by the long march
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In junior high Peyton Place had just come out so my friend lifted her mom’s copy and we all got together and read the dirty parts at lunch. Scandulous.....


19 posted on 01/25/2010 1:25:53 PM PST by the long march
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yep!

Large and seemingly intractable institutions can lose their legitimacy almost overnight. For example, we have our American Revolution, Martin Luther's thesis nailed to the door, or how about Martin Luther King's “I have a Dream” speech.

Government schools are utterly incompatible with **all** of the provisions in the First Amendment ( speech, press, assembly, establishment of religious worldview, and free practice of religion.) Government schools and freedom of conscience can NOT co-exist! This is a powerful idea that is gaining traction in the larger society.

And...Yes, the only solution is to begin the process of privatizing universal K-12 education.

Please remember that the most powerful things in this universe is an **idea** ( see tag line). That we exist at all began with an idea in the mind of God.

As for my own kids, they were homeschooled. Two had B.S. degrees in mathematics by the age of 18. The oldest has been equally successful in his work. ( They knew plenty of words.)

20 posted on 01/25/2010 1:28:14 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid!)
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