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“We’d be willing to sit down and start over from the beginning with genuine negotiations,” he replied. “There are things we can agree on.”

FU JM!

J.D. HAYWORTH '10

1 posted on 01/24/2010 2:13:53 PM PST by rabscuttle385
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...such as overhauling medical malpractice lawsuits, allowing residents of one state to buy health insurance from a company in another state, and granting tax credits for people who purchase health insurance on their own.

I have no problem with those ideas. Particularly the first two.

“We’d be willing to sit down and start over from the beginning with genuine negotiations,” he replied. “There are things we can agree on.”

That statement reveals that McCain is just brain-dead.

26 posted on 01/24/2010 2:31:11 PM PST by TigersEye (It's the Marxism, stupid!)
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Is there anyone in Washington DC who has an IQ above 5?

PROOF RomneyCARE is a Disaster (and Romney and McCain are utterly clueless)

“Mr. Romney's subsidized coverage is meanwhile doing what entitlements do: crowding
out private insurers, compounding the cost explosion, walking the state toward rationing.
So long as the former governor clings to these central points of his health plan, he's on
the wrong side of free-market policy and public opinion.

This isn't going away for Mr. Romney either, which is why he'd do better by writing off
his own plan as a mistake that Democrats have made worse, and replacing it with a
proposal that deregulates and reforms the private market to lower insurance costs
(thereby achieving greater coverage).”


“Health Care Speechwriter for Edwards, Obama & Clinton Now Without Health Insurance”
I'm a critic because what Washington is talking about doing
has made health insurance unaffordable in Massachusetts.



“Small businesses bridle at health insurance hikes (Romneycare strangles Mass. businesses)
some really bad news from Blue Cross-Blue Shield: His company’s health insurance rates are going up 47 percent in January.”


“ Rationing medicine has already begun
… government-
run health care has introduced rationing and waiting lists and cost the lives of the people under its provisions.”


“DEATH PANELS OPEN FOR BUSINESS IN MASSACHUSETTS”


“President Obama's newly confirmed regulatory czar defended the
possibility of removing organs from terminally ill patients without their permission.”


“You can’t reap these savings without limiting patients’ choices in some way," said Paul Levy, CEO of Beth Israel Deaconess.”


“State plan may place limits on patients’ hospital options( Mass. RomneyCare )”


"Romney Visits Nebraska, Talks Health Care [where he defends Romneycare] “


"Paying the Health Tax in Massachusetts [Romneycare]
Massachusetts requires every resident to have health insurance, and this
year, without informing us directly, the state had changed the rules in a way that made
our bare-bones policy no longer acceptable. Unless we ponied up for a pricier policy we
neither need nor want—or enrolled in a government-sponsored insurance plan—we
would have to pay $1,000 each year to the state.
How did we become outlaws? “


"National Health Preview - The Massachusetts debacle, coming soon to your neighborhood."
It was only a matter of time.
They're trying to manage the huge costs of the subsidized middle-class insurance program that is gradually swallowing the state budget.
The program provides low- or no-cost coverage to about 165,000 residents, or three-fifths of the newly insured, and is budgeted at $880 million for 2010, a 7.3% single-year increase that is likely to be optimistic.
The state's overall costs on health programs have increased by 42% (!) since 2006."


A Very Sick Health Plan; Bay State’s ‘Grand Experiment’ Fails [RomneyCare]
"Initiated on Mr. Romney’s gubernatorial watch in 2006, this “experiment” has fallen on hard times, and predictably so. “


Health care in Massachusetts: a warning for America [Romney brings Mass. to its knees]
The Bay State's mandatory insurance law is raising costs, limiting access, and lowering care.

Three years ago, Massachusetts adopted a plan requiring all residents to purchase health
insurance, with state subsidies for lower-income residents. But rather than creating a
utopia of high-quality affordable healthcare, the result has been the exact opposite –
skyrocketing costs, worsened access, and lower quality care."


"‘Severe’ doc shortage seen hiking wait time
“The shortage is getting more severe”"


“Health costs to rise again.( RomneyCare )
The state’s major health insurers plan to raise premiums by about 10 percent next year,
prompting many employers to reduce benefits and shift additional costs to workers.”


“Nation’s ill-advised to follow Mass. plan [Health plan a failure]
September 17, 2009 The canary is dead.
Massachusetts, the model for the ObamaCare universal insurance plan, is the canary in
the health care coal mine. Yesterday, its obit appeared on the front page of both The Wall
Street Journal and The Boston Globe-Democrat “


"Bay State Insurance Premiums Highest in Country - Boston Globe August 22, 2009
Massachusetts has the most expensive family health insurance premiums in the country,
according to a new analysis that highlights the state’s challenge in trying to rein in medical costs
40 percent higher than in 2003. Over the same period, premiums nationwide rose an average of 33 percent..."


"Massachusetts: the laboratory for ObamaCare“


"Massachusetts' Obama-like reforms increase health costs, wait times [RomneyCare]
Premiums are growing 21 to 46 percent faster than the national average"


"Mass. Pushes Rationing to Control Universal Healthcare Costs (RomneyCare)
A 10-member Massachusetts state healthcare advisory board unanimously recommended
that the state begin rationing healthcare to keep the state’s marquee universal health care program afloat financially.


"1,000 cancer patients 'refused treatment'"


"Massachusetts Universal Healthcare System Breaking Down Already
ERs in Massachusetts have not seen a downturn in visits. On the contrary, it seems that ER visits are actually on the upswing in the Bay State. In fact, in 2007 they were higher than the national average by 20 percent...”


"Hospital patients 'left in agony'"


"National Health Preview - The Massachusetts debacle, coming soon to your neighborhood.
In Massachusetts's latest crisis,
They're trying to manage the huge costs of the subsidized middle-class insurance program that is gradually swallowing the state budget.
The program provides low- or no-cost coverage to about 165,000 residents, or three-fifths of the newly insured, and is budgeted at $880 million for 2010, a 7.3% single-year increase that is likely to be optimistic.
The state's overall costs on health programs have increased by 42% (!) since 2006
Mr. Romney should have known better before signing on to this not-so-grand experiment, especially since the state's "free market" reforms that he boasts about have proven to be irrelevant when not fictional.
Only 21,000 people have used the "connector" that was supposed to link individuals to private insurers."


A Very Sick Health Plan; Bay State’s ‘Grand Experiment’ Fails [RomneyCare]
… fiscal troubles aplenty within Repubican Mitt Romney’s brainchild, Massachusetts’ “grand experiment” in “universal” health care."
"Initiated on Mr. Romney’s gubernatorial watch in 2006, this “experiment” has fallen on hard times, and predictably so.
Even though the Bay State commenced its program with a far smaller percentage of uninsured residents than exists nationwide,
“RomneyCare” is threatening to bankrupt the state.“


"Dem Congresswoman Admits Obama Health Care Plan Will Destroy Private Health Insurance Industry"

27 posted on 01/24/2010 2:31:15 PM PST by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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>> “[...] some of their ideas for improving the nation’s health care system such as overhauling medical malpractice lawsuits, allowing residents of one state to buy health insurance from a company in another state, and granting tax credits for people who purchase health insurance on their own.”

I’m no McCain fan — but, I’m not sure I’d call those suggestions “RINOCare”. There is nothing in that list of suggestions that I would identify as “not conservative”. I agree with those ideas.

To the extent that obtaining these goals requires us to give on nationalized healthcare, then I would object.

SnakeDoc


30 posted on 01/24/2010 2:32:25 PM PST by SnakeDoctor (Life is tough; it's tougher if you're stupid. -- John Wayne)
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"RINOcare rising from the ashes of Obamacare?"

Excellent way of putting it!

That bastard McCain is driving me nuts. RINO-Care and Amnesty for ILLEGAL immigrants?

There's a document he swore to uphold and defend against all enemies, foreign and domestic....


34 posted on 01/24/2010 2:36:26 PM PST by Cobra64
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How much money are you going to receive for reaching
across the Isle, John, little greenery in the pocket ,eh?


36 posted on 01/24/2010 2:37:50 PM PST by Bullfrogg (American by birth, Irish by heritage, and hellraiser by choice)
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Mr. McCain, a Republican from Arizona, said on the CBS news program “Face the Nation” that President Obama should sit down with Republican leaders and begin adopting some of their ideas for improving the nation’s health care system such as overhauling medical malpractice lawsuits, allowing residents of one state to buy health insurance from a company in another state, and granting tax credits for people who purchase health insurance on their own.

I see. So you're opposed to:

1. tort reform (medical malpractice)
2. cross-State purchasing of health insurance (like we do with life, property, auto)
3. allowing self-employed/self-insured people the same tax benefits as companies (deduction of insurance expenses)

I guess those offend you? Or is it that John McCain suggested this eminently sensible reforms?

38 posted on 01/24/2010 2:40:01 PM PST by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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"Senator John McCain, the losing candidate in the last presidential election.."

I know the NYT used that wording to irritate 'conservatives' but actually I kinda like the sound of it. ha

40 posted on 01/24/2010 2:41:38 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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Democrats have blocked every health reform bill offered by Republicans. What is there to negotiate? They want Universal health care, Republicans want real reform. Split the difference John? This is why the country is screwed up.


41 posted on 01/24/2010 2:42:30 PM PST by FTJM
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Let's hope RINO-care is unpalatable enough to Dems that it can't be passed.

Why can't those idiots in the Stupid Party get behind the free-market based reforms that are out there? Bennett from Utah had some legislation a few years ago that was a start? There are lots of ideas from places like the Heritage Foundation that would be improvements, and would show that Republicans do want to make things better, and aren't just socialist lite.

43 posted on 01/24/2010 2:43:25 PM PST by Defiant (The absence of bias appears to be bias to those who are biased.)
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John McCain crippled the rights ability to get its message out and campaign effectively with his stupid "campaign finance reform" and as a result is directly responsible for the socialist majority in Congress and the muslim in the WH.

His "campaign finance reform" has put MILLIONS of people out of work and cost citizens billions of dollars in the stock market.

He wants to grant amnesty and citizenship to millions of illegal aliens, doesn't support enhanced interrogation methods necessary to protect the nation, and is a supporter of the KLA, a muzzie terrorist organization.

The most dangerous man in America.

45 posted on 01/24/2010 2:44:36 PM PST by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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This is the same thing Scott Brown has said. When conservatives elect RINO’s how can they be surprised? Look for Mc Cain Brown health care bill coming your way soon...
46 posted on 01/24/2010 2:45:49 PM PST by montanajoe
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ideas for improving the nation’s health care system such as overhauling medical malpractice lawsuits, allowing residents of one state to buy health insurance from a company in another state, and granting tax credits for people who purchase health insurance on their own.

I agree with all three of those old ideas. However the problem is the bill would not be limited to those 3 things and they would include all the socialistic stuff. So it would be better to do nothing now, win the house back and then pass those 3 things.

48 posted on 01/24/2010 2:49:38 PM PST by plain talk
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HAYWORTH 2010!

http://fittrust.org/

http://www.ontheissues.org/House/J_D__Hayworth.htm


54 posted on 01/24/2010 2:55:12 PM PST by M1911 Colt .45 ACP (John Moses Browning - TRUE American Hero!)
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FUBO FUMC!

Cheers!

58 posted on 01/24/2010 3:19:02 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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Oh Nooooo! Sarah Palin has GOT to get away from McPain.


60 posted on 01/24/2010 3:25:36 PM PST by Candor7 (((The effective weapons against Oba- Fascism are ridicule, derision , truth (.Member NRA)))
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McCain’s time is over. He has to step aside and let others take the lead in moving forward private sector solutions to health reform.
Progressive (socialist) solutions are unacceptable!


63 posted on 01/24/2010 3:45:42 PM PST by orinoco
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Obama would never sit down with republicans. A racist sitting with non racists? Only in the beer garden when he has to cover his a$$.


70 posted on 01/24/2010 4:13:37 PM PST by taxesareforever (Release Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich and let him and his family get on with their lives.)
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“We can do socialism better.” — signed, John McCain, Scott Brown, Mitt Romney


71 posted on 01/24/2010 4:17:51 PM PST by EternalVigilance (With God, Obama can't hurt us. Without God, George Washington couldn't save us.)
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McCain will have lotsa help too.


76 posted on 01/24/2010 4:52:26 PM PST by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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McCain, always ready to snatch defeat from victory.


80 posted on 01/24/2010 5:15:26 PM PST by calex59
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