McCain Nudges Obama Toward His Party’s Health Plans (RINOcare rising from the ashes of Obamacare?)

McCain will be the useful idiot on the Republican side once the Democrats come up with an Obamacare reconciliation bill to ram through congress. If Republicans listen to the public and resist this insane, unflagging Democrat health care assault, the Democrats will do themselves in. I suppose McCain doesn’t want that to happen.

I know it’s not permitted to pray for someone’s demise, but I really hope that maybe God would incapacitate him for awhile...

Try praying for his retirement...

Well, I’m in two minds about this. What McCain proposes is actually what is needed. Tort reform, loosening of state regulation of health care that limits access to insurance, and (maybe) tax credits for having health insurance.

I’m less sure about that last one. Better to just cut taxes, and let people decide what they want to spend it on.

Where he goes wrong, of course, is offering, once again, to “reach across the aisle” and work with obama, pelosi, and reid, on such a project.

No, Juan. Health care is a dead issue as long as this Communist is in the White House and those two jihadists are running congress. Obamacare must have a stake driven through its heart. Why in hell do you want to take a good idea like tort reform and mix it up with his thousand page Communist mess?

Go back to your room and shut up.

Just when it looks like America might win one, McCain comes along with aisle crossing nonsense. The old fart is nauseating and relentless, and he has found a way to be a pop star again. Go Hayworth!

Retirement takes too long. How about a nice sock in the mouth...tomorrow?

...such as overhauling medical malpractice lawsuits, allowing residents of one state to buy health insurance from a company in another state, and granting tax credits for people who purchase health insurance on their own.

I have no problem with those ideas. Particularly the first two.

“We’d be willing to sit down and start over from the beginning with genuine negotiations,” he replied. “There are things we can agree on.”

That statement reveals that McCain is just brain-dead.

Is there anyone in Washington DC who has an IQ above 5?

PROOF RomneyCARE is a Disaster (and Romney and McCain are utterly clueless)

“Mr. Romney's subsidized coverage is meanwhile doing what entitlements do: crowding
out private insurers, compounding the cost explosion, walking the state toward rationing.
So long as the former governor clings to these central points of his health plan, he's on
the wrong side of free-market policy and public opinion.

This isn't going away for Mr. Romney either, which is why he'd do better by writing off
his own plan as a mistake that Democrats have made worse, and replacing it with a
proposal that deregulates and reforms the private market to lower insurance costs
(thereby achieving greater coverage).”

“Health Care Speechwriter for Edwards, Obama & Clinton Now Without Health Insurance”
I'm a critic because what Washington is talking about doing
has made health insurance unaffordable in Massachusetts.

“Small businesses bridle at health insurance hikes (Romneycare strangles Mass. businesses)
some really bad news from Blue Cross-Blue Shield: His company’s health insurance rates are going up 47 percent in January.”

“ Rationing medicine has already begun
… government-
run health care has introduced rationing and waiting lists and cost the lives of the people under its provisions.”

“DEATH PANELS OPEN FOR BUSINESS IN MASSACHUSETTS”

“President Obama's newly confirmed regulatory czar defended the
possibility of removing organs from terminally ill patients without their permission.”

“You can’t reap these savings without limiting patients’ choices in some way," said Paul Levy, CEO of Beth Israel Deaconess.”

“State plan may place limits on patients’ hospital options( Mass. RomneyCare )”

"Romney Visits Nebraska, Talks Health Care [where he defends Romneycare] “

"Paying the Health Tax in Massachusetts [Romneycare]
Massachusetts requires every resident to have health insurance, and this
year, without informing us directly, the state had changed the rules in a way that made
our bare-bones policy no longer acceptable. Unless we ponied up for a pricier policy we
neither need nor want—or enrolled in a government-sponsored insurance plan—we
would have to pay $1,000 each year to the state.
How did we become outlaws? “

"National Health Preview - The Massachusetts debacle, coming soon to your neighborhood."
It was only a matter of time.
They're trying to manage the huge costs of the subsidized middle-class insurance program that is gradually swallowing the state budget.
The program provides low- or no-cost coverage to about 165,000 residents, or three-fifths of the newly insured, and is budgeted at $880 million for 2010, a 7.3% single-year increase that is likely to be optimistic.
The state's overall costs on health programs have increased by 42% (!) since 2006."

A Very Sick Health Plan; Bay State’s ‘Grand Experiment’ Fails [RomneyCare]
"Initiated on Mr. Romney’s gubernatorial watch in 2006, this “experiment” has fallen on hard times, and predictably so. “

Health care in Massachusetts: a warning for America [Romney brings Mass. to its knees]
The Bay State's mandatory insurance law is raising costs, limiting access, and lowering care.
Three years ago, Massachusetts adopted a plan requiring all residents to purchase health
insurance, with state subsidies for lower-income residents. But rather than creating a
utopia of high-quality affordable healthcare, the result has been the exact opposite –
skyrocketing costs, worsened access, and lower quality care."

"‘Severe’ doc shortage seen hiking wait time
“The shortage is getting more severe”"

“Health costs to rise again.( RomneyCare )
The state’s major health insurers plan to raise premiums by about 10 percent next year,
prompting many employers to reduce benefits and shift additional costs to workers.”

“Nation’s ill-advised to follow Mass. plan [Health plan a failure]
September 17, 2009 The canary is dead.
Massachusetts, the model for the ObamaCare universal insurance plan, is the canary in
the health care coal mine. Yesterday, its obit appeared on the front page of both The Wall
Street Journal and The Boston Globe-Democrat “

"Bay State Insurance Premiums Highest in Country - Boston Globe August 22, 2009
Massachusetts has the most expensive family health insurance premiums in the country,
according to a new analysis that highlights the state’s challenge in trying to rein in medical costs
40 percent higher than in 2003. Over the same period, premiums nationwide rose an average of 33 percent..."

"Massachusetts: the laboratory for ObamaCare“

"Massachusetts' Obama-like reforms increase health costs, wait times [RomneyCare]
Premiums are growing 21 to 46 percent faster than the national average"

"Mass. Pushes Rationing to Control Universal Healthcare Costs (RomneyCare)
A 10-member Massachusetts state healthcare advisory board unanimously recommended
that the state begin rationing healthcare to keep the state’s marquee universal health care program afloat financially.”

"1,000 cancer patients 'refused treatment'"

"Massachusetts Universal Healthcare System Breaking Down Already
ERs in Massachusetts have not seen a downturn in visits. On the contrary, it seems that ER visits are actually on the upswing in the Bay State. In fact, in 2007 they were higher than the national average by 20 percent...”

"Hospital patients 'left in agony'"

"National Health Preview - The Massachusetts debacle, coming soon to your neighborhood.
In Massachusetts's latest crisis,
They're trying to manage the huge costs of the subsidized middle-class insurance program that is gradually swallowing the state budget.
The program provides low- or no-cost coverage to about 165,000 residents, or three-fifths of the newly insured, and is budgeted at $880 million for 2010, a 7.3% single-year increase that is likely to be optimistic.
The state's overall costs on health programs have increased by 42% (!) since 2006
Mr. Romney should have known better before signing on to this not-so-grand experiment, especially since the state's "free market" reforms that he boasts about have proven to be irrelevant when not fictional.
Only 21,000 people have used the "connector" that was supposed to link individuals to private insurers."

A Very Sick Health Plan; Bay State’s ‘Grand Experiment’ Fails [RomneyCare]
… fiscal troubles aplenty within Repubican Mitt Romney’s brainchild, Massachusetts’ “grand experiment” in “universal” health care."
"Initiated on Mr. Romney’s gubernatorial watch in 2006, this “experiment” has fallen on hard times, and predictably so.
Even though the Bay State commenced its program with a far smaller percentage of uninsured residents than exists nationwide,
“RomneyCare” is threatening to bankrupt the state.“

"Dem Congresswoman Admits Obama Health Care Plan Will Destroy Private Health Insurance Industry"

Obamacare is toxic, and now McLame wants to contaminate his own party with this stinking pile of garbage.

Amen to what you said.

Besides, wasn't it the Rats who promised transparency but then locked the Republicans out of closed door meeting wrt health care reform?

So once again, the GOP will be asked to "save the day" and get not one ounce of credit for it.

Have we not learned our lesson yet?

sw

>> “[...] some of their ideas for improving the nation’s health care system such as overhauling medical malpractice lawsuits, allowing residents of one state to buy health insurance from a company in another state, and granting tax credits for people who purchase health insurance on their own.”

I’m no McCain fan — but, I’m not sure I’d call those suggestions “RINOCare”. There is nothing in that list of suggestions that I would identify as “not conservative”. I agree with those ideas.

To the extent that obtaining these goals requires us to give on nationalized healthcare, then I would object.

SnakeDoc

Just read on another thread that voters in Arizona are receiving robo calls from Scott Brown in support of McCain in upcoming primaries.

As much as I like that Brown won in MA, Brown is a moderate.

Compassionate conservatism = moderate republicans
Moderate republicans = rino

"And get this. Even after those campaign aides you lent me did their job of trashing her, she's still gonna campaign for me!"

Where he goes wrong, of course, is offering, once again, to “reach across the aisle” and work with obama, pelosi, and reid, on such a project.

You know damn good and well that, if McCain gets his way, the GOP will attain far less than what it's asking or what is needed.

At the same time, the Democrats will get a large portion of what they want. Which negates the value of the deal altogether.

McCain would trade the availability of health insurance across state lines for a public option -- which would make the former irrelevant.

Hey, Mitch! Get this man out of the mix.

"RINOcare rising from the ashes of Obamacare?"

Excellent way of putting it!

That bastard McCain is driving me nuts. RINO-Care and Amnesty for ILLEGAL immigrants?

There's a document he swore to uphold and defend against all enemies, foreign and domestic....

I’m less sure about that last one. Better to just cut taxes, and let people decide what they want to spend it on.

I agree with that. Tax credits are really just socialism-lite.

How much money are you going to receive for reaching
across the Isle, John, little greenery in the pocket ,eh?

Sarah, bail on this RINO now!

I agree.

Contact here:

http://sarahpalininformation.wordpress.com/sarah-palin-contact-information/

Mr. McCain, a Republican from Arizona, said on the CBS news program “Face the Nation” that President Obama should sit down with Republican leaders and begin adopting some of their ideas for improving the nation’s health care system such as overhauling medical malpractice lawsuits, allowing residents of one state to buy health insurance from a company in another state, and granting tax credits for people who purchase health insurance on their own.

I see. So you're opposed to:

1. tort reform (medical malpractice)
2. cross-State purchasing of health insurance (like we do with life, property, auto)
3. allowing self-employed/self-insured people the same tax benefits as companies (deduction of insurance expenses)

I guess those offend you? Or is it that John McCain suggested this eminently sensible reforms?

There is nothing in that list of suggestions that I would identify as “not conservative”. I agree with those ideas.

But there's not one chance in a million that the Dims will pass a bill with only those ideas. Obamacare needs to die ASAP, and someone need to snatch that oxygen mask and tank from Juan McCain's hands.

"Senator John McCain, the losing candidate in the last presidential election.."

I know the NYT used that wording to irritate 'conservatives' but actually I kinda like the sound of it. ha