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The State of the Union Show should be interesting.
1 posted on 01/21/2010 6:12:30 AM PST by Libloather
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Executive Order huh? That’s gonna be his work around now?


31 posted on 01/21/2010 6:34:15 AM PST by b4its2late (Before you can control a horse, you have to break it. Sound familiar?)
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Actually, I’m going to be a contrarian here. All of these programs need significant cuts. The US is bankrupt unless they get made. Congress cannot do it.

So long as BO doesn’t hide a bunch of nasty left wing poison in this proposal, I’d be inclined to give it tentative support. The problem is, I don’t trust him to only address those issues. He’ll try to sneak free health care for illegal immigrants, gay marriage, death panels, and cuts to missile defense into the package.

So it needs to be watched carefully. But in general principal, why should we be opposing cuts in three of the worst entitlement programs ever devised.


32 posted on 01/21/2010 6:34:47 AM PST by ModelBreaker
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As I’ve poster elsewhere on FR, watch out. Brown’s win made Barry realize that if he wants a second term, he’s got to swing to the center.

And 3 years is a long time in most American’s memory!! Barry’s first year goofs will be forgotten or forgiven by then.


33 posted on 01/21/2010 6:36:31 AM PST by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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Yeah, let some panel do it. He ain’t got the time, the first tee is open at 1 o’clock


35 posted on 01/21/2010 6:38:43 AM PST by machman
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Obama is “messing” with the wrong people! He cuts US and WE cut him!

If they want to cut, start with the Dept. of Education and its $56 BILLION budget! That would pay for the SS gap!


36 posted on 01/21/2010 6:42:01 AM PST by WellyP
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I can handle a 3% or even a 5% cut in social security, but I want Obambi and congress to take the same cuts. Oh yes, and federal employee wages also.

They can reduce medicare 3-5% if they choose. I carry supplemental insurance to pick up the slack. Now the cut to the care is a different story. Trying to find a doctor today that will take medicare patients is impossible. Of course, again, having supplemental insurance really helps. But I have given up on medicare and use the VA medical services for my health needs. They love me in the VA, cause they can give me great care and charge it off to medicare and my supplemental insurance.

......Bob


37 posted on 01/21/2010 6:47:48 AM PST by Lokibob (When handed lemons...Refuse to sign for them. Life's lemons can't be delivered without a signature.)
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Looks like Dick Morris was right, all along.


38 posted on 01/21/2010 6:48:39 AM PST by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/01/20/AR2010012002599.html

WASHINGTON — Republicans on Wednesday branded the White House deal with Democrats on a budget deficit commission as a “nothing burger” because it wouldn’t require votes on how to stem the red ink.

A tentative agreement would let President Barack Obama name the 18-member bipartisan commission. It would seek a compromise on the tax increases and spending cuts needed to tackle the deficit, which reached $1.4 trillion last year and could climb this year.

(snip)

39 posted on 01/21/2010 6:49:25 AM PST by maggief
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There's MORE!

This is DOD bill I think, not obamacare.

Makes little difference as it is a health care issue.

TRI CARE FOR LIFE This from a google search:

http://economicspolitics.blogspot.com/2009/05/tricare-for-life-is-obama-trying-to.html

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This option would help reduce the costs of TFL, as well as costs for Medicare, by introducing minimum out-of pocket requirements for beneficiaries. Under this option, TFL would not cover any of the first $525 of an enrollee’s cost-sharing liabilities for calendar year 2011 and would limit coverage to 50 percent of the next $4,725 in Medicare cost sharing that the beneficiary incurred. (Because all further cost sharing would be covered by TFL, enrollees could not pay more than $2,888 in cost sharing in that year.)
http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/99xx/doc9925/12-18-HealthOptions.pdf

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November 6, 2009 | Rep Buyer abd Rep McKeon

http://www.vawatchdog.org/09/hcva09/hcva110609-1.htm Link

Bill Would Restrict Veterans’ Health Care Options

Buyer and McKeon Offer Amendments to Protect Veterans and TRICARE Beneficiaries

43 posted on 01/21/2010 6:54:54 AM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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NO COLAS for several years, this includes retired Military, disabled Vets, the disabled as well as senior citizens

A trip to the grocery store Tuesday saw cost of food skyrocketing again.

http://seniorjournal.com/NEWS/SocialSecurity/2009/20090629-SenCitMayNotGet.htm

Report: Bill would reduce senior care Medicare cuts approved by House may affect access to providers

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/14/AR2009111402597.html

Unions Cut Special Deal on Health Taxes (Healthcare cost for seniors going up to pay for unions)

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB20001424052748704281204575003040695279432.html

http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=517004 Mayo clinic

Weighing Medical Costs of End-of-Life Care (Money, Death Panels and The Duty to Die)

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/23/health/23ucla.html?_r=1&ref=business&pagewanted=all

Seniors' coverage options dwindle as Medicare Advantage programs close shop

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/bus/stories/DN-advantage_22bus.ART.State.Edition1.3c912a9.html

Screwing the Seniors? AARP to Make Millions Off of Obamacare

http://yidwithlid.blogspot.com/2009/10/screwing-seniors-aarp-to-make-millions.html

46 posted on 01/21/2010 6:58:04 AM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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President Obama was hammering out an agreement with Democratic leaders to support a plan to issue an executive order to cut entitlements, including Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.

Excellent news, if true. Big if.

49 posted on 01/21/2010 7:02:40 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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If it’s not one thing, it’s another. This man is evil.


54 posted on 01/21/2010 7:05:18 AM PST by LadyPilgrim ((Lifted up was He to die; It is finished was His cry; Hallelujah what a Savior!!!!!! ))
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State of the Union Show = President I-bama


55 posted on 01/21/2010 7:10:39 AM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't fly, can't ski, can't drive, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best.)
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Meanwhile, these pricks will continue to vote themselves more and more and more benefits, raises and perqs.


62 posted on 01/21/2010 7:25:55 AM PST by eaglesiniowa ((Hope is not a course of action))
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They are crafting a trap for the GOP.

be very careful people.


65 posted on 01/21/2010 7:33:09 AM PST by dforest (Who is the real Jim Thompson? I am.)
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68 posted on 01/21/2010 7:36:36 AM PST by JHBowden (Keep the Change!)
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The National Committee to Preserve Social Security and Medicare has been fighting the commission idea recently sent a letter to congress, saying in part:

“We appreciate the concerns of legislators who are looking for a means of reducing the federal deficit and slowing the growth in the debt. However, we have significant concerns about any process – including the Conrad-Gregg Commission – that would disenfranchise American voters and subject Social Security beneficiaries to harmful cuts in benefits. As supporters of Social Security, we are surprised to see the federal deficit and the federal debt cited as the reason a commission needs to be established to make cuts in Social Security. The truth is that neither the $1.4 trillion deficit nor the nearly $12 trillion debt has anything to do with Social Security benefits.

For nearly three decades, Social Security has taken in more revenue each year than it has paid out in benefits. These excess funds have been invested in special issue U.S. government securities. Thus, Social Security has effectively been loaning its excess funds to the federal government to spend on other programs. Rather than increasing the federal deficit, Social Security’s annual surpluses have actually been covering up the true size of the deficit in the general fund.”

http://www.baltimorechronicle.com/2010/012010Ridgeway.shtml

75 posted on 01/21/2010 7:47:30 AM PST by SweetCaroline (He is the Antichrist that denieth the Father and the Son. 1-John 2:22)
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This panel is nothing more that a way to get the republicans to sign on to a tax increase. Hope they are smart enough to stay away from it.


77 posted on 01/21/2010 7:53:31 AM PST by engrpat (A village in Kenya is missing their idiot...lets send him back)
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I remember during Clinton’s time Rush explaining how that works. They get a panel of thier own cronies to do what the president wants and if something goes wrong,”It’s the panel’s fault”. They fool the people and the administration remains unscathed. We had an ethics problem here in San Antonio Texas. Well, the sitting Mayor dug out a past Mayor from 1975, Lila Crockrell,and asked her to form a (special) ethics committee to look into the problem. I don’t remember hearing anything more about it or what “the special committee” did. I’m sure the ex-mayor and friends were paid well.


79 posted on 01/21/2010 7:55:10 AM PST by shiva
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They want to raise the debt limit by $1.9 trillion.

This is a threat to get that passed.

Then its off to the spending races with Stimulus 2 and 3.


80 posted on 01/21/2010 8:14:18 AM PST by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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