Posted on 01/19/2010 1:00:06 PM PST by mlizzy
I believe that he once said that if you believe in possible extraterrestrial life you should be stoned. Does that mean he thinks the Pope should be stoned????
Remember also, this is where the "zombie" legend comes from. I don't agree with Pat's statement because I don't think he can prove his point, and I don't think God told him the news, but Satan is no doubt wandering through the land and has been for centuries. The evidence is overwhelming. In a trial, you can convict someone of murder without a body. We don't need to witness the actual ceremony to believe that the people have chosen a dark path. After 50 years of abortion, do we still really doubt the motives of the aborter's? When you preach save the whales and kill the children, one has to stop and examine where that logic comes from. There is a certain amount of discernment even in an atheist heart.
There is no sense in piling on to Haiti and their history when Google is available for everyone, but to deny something is wrong is just ignorant. Just as 55 men starting a revolution in America with the most powerful empire in the world and winning had to be a blessing from God, how long will God hold back His wrath on a cesspool of sin and depravity? My father said that we shouldn't have won WWII. He saw 100 planes leave and only 20 return. He knew Germany was more prepared than we were, yet we won. In my lifetime I have seen us lose in Viet Nam but never lose a battle. What happened to America in the 60's and '70's? We declared God dead, banned prayer, approved abortion, homosexuals came out of the closet, the "pill" was born to stop unwanted pregnancies, free love, drugs, and many other wonderful liberties were invented. As far as I'm concerned fornication while on drugs and baby killing isn't an advance in God's will. We can't even win a 3rd world war for some reason.
There are Bible verses that support both versions of God. We have the Great Flood and Sodom and Gomorrah for examples of His wrath, but then Jesus asks who was the sinner that cause the earthquake that destroyed a city, then says it just happened, it was no mans fault and they should be ready for judgment at any time. We know that life is hard and sometimes unfair, but we also know that God will have the final say in Revelations. Determining which ones are natural disasters and which ones are God's Wrath is a trick that we should be brushing up on. IMHO, there are many disasters coming and it may be useful to figure out which are man caused. Reading the Bible should teach even the most uneducated that good kings equaled God's blessing and bad kings equaled bad disasters, even destruction and slavery.
“Pat Robertson lost his mind years ago.”
Thats’ a convenient cop-out to avid thought.
This entire business regarding Pat Robertson has been spun beyond belief by the liberal lamestream media and lies have taken the place of TRUTH in this matter.
First, Robertson has been accused of something that he did not say, regarding ‘divine retribution’. Robertson stated historical FACT. Second, Robertson encouraged his viewing audience to PRAY for the Haitians, to HELP them, and to do exactly what Christ said to do for those less fortunate than ourselves.
If Robertson had claimed that the earthquake was ‘divine retribution’ (which he did not), he certainly would not be urging help for Haiti, as it would be helping those who God had chosen to smite.
Correction..."win in a 3rd world country"...
Your post is powerful and profound. Thank you for that.
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Your post is powerful and to the point. What you said about the Bible showing both versions of God are actually displays of His character and nature. This was one of the topics we talked about at lunch today. People must understand that not only is God deeply loving, merciful and kind but He is also a righteous, holy God who will deal with evil, sin and lawlessness ruthlessly if it calls for it.
mlizzy, but you see, it’s not at all a story about the Pope and extraterrestrial life. The Pope and the Church have no definitive teaching on the matter, and I don’t think this Pope has said anything about it. Instead, it’s a story about a Vatican astronomer, his views on the matter, and a conference that was going to consider the possibility of alien life’s existence and its theological implications.
Understand that the Vatican investigates all sorts of things all the time. This does not mean that the Pope knows about every investigation or has a position on it. He doesn’t micromanage everything. The Vatican is a country and a church with well over one billion members worldwide, so the Pope is much like an American president in what he handles, knows and dictates.
I’m not criticizing you here, it’s just that this story is another example of the media misrepresenting Church actions through implication or overt falsehood.
If you want to read a great essay that includes a segment on the Church’s approach to science and new ideas, read this one by Chesterton: http://chesterton.org/gkc/theologian/whycatholic.htm
It’s “Why I am a Catholic.” He was a convert, and it’s a GREAT essay.
Yes, those who do so in sincerity are respectable, even when they are wrong.
The ones who are trouble are those who deny that God's wrath/judgment is ever at work...the root of liberalism IMO.
I realize it is a story of the Vatican’s look-see into alien life. I thought the article explained that pretty well ... it was my wording that was confusing ... my apologies ...
If you Google pat robertson-—stoning, the quote will be brought up.
I’m not willing to say I agree with what Robertson said, at all; but you have given me an awful lot to think about and I appreciate the well-thought out and learned response. As fallen Jedi go, you’re good people Darth
God's nature is His nature and He loved us enough to reveal it to us. Our problem seems to begin when we substitute out fallen nature on top of His just nature.
You and I think very much alike plus I would venture to say that experience over the years have proven the validity of these truths to us.
You wrote: “ and Jesus didn’t come to change the Law, but to fulfill it.”
That is very true and I have been thinking alot about that truth throughout this whole Haiti debate which many critics have chosen to ignore.
You and I think very much alike plus I would venture to say that experience over the years have proven the validity of these truths to us.
You wrote: “ and Jesus didn’t come to change the Law, but to fulfill it.”
That is very true and I have been thinking alot about that truth throughout this whole Haiti debate which many critics have chosen to ignore.
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