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Democrats’ Backup Health Plan: Ask House to Back Senate Bill (Obama to ignore will of the people)
NY Times ^ | 1/17/2010 | DAVID M. HERSZENHORN

Posted on 01/17/2010 4:49:58 PM PST by tobyhill

With the Massachusetts special election for United States Senate increasingly unpredictable, Democrats in Washington are contemplating an array of backup plans should a Republican upset on Tuesday deprive the Democrats of the crucial 60th vote that they need to pass far-reaching health care legislation.

And, at least for the moment, the favored fallback would be to try to convince House Democrats to approve the health care bill that the Senate adopted on Christmas Eve, obviating the need for an additional Senate vote.

House Democrats have expressed a number of complaints about the Senate legislation, and Congressional leaders and top White House officials, including President Obama, worked hard all last week to negotiate various compromises.

But on the vast majority of issues, the bills are similar if not identical. And the complaints with the Senate bill may seem minor compared with the prospect of outright defeat on the president’s top domestic initiative, and the thought of Republicans using health care to clobber Democrats in this year’s midterm elections.

The Democrats have other options. They could try to push a revised health care bill through the Senate before the new Massachusetts senator is sworn in. Or they could try to use a procedural tactic known as budget reconciliation that would require only 51 votes.

(Excerpt) Read more at prescriptions.blogs.nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 111th; bhohealthcare; ma2010
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1 posted on 01/17/2010 4:49:58 PM PST by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

that will never happen, though. the house dems hate the senate bill.


2 posted on 01/17/2010 4:50:55 PM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: JohnBrowdie

http://www.brownforussenate.com/call-from-home-registration

forget this and focus on Brown make it bigger than big......


3 posted on 01/17/2010 4:52:58 PM PST by gibtx2 (keep up the good work I am out of work but post 20 a month to this out of WF Check)
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To: tobyhill

I guess these guys are really hell bent on going to jail. Would love to see them all in jumpsuits, in court shackled facing a judge for thier sentence. CRIMES AGAINST THE AMERICAN PUBLIC


4 posted on 01/17/2010 4:54:25 PM PST by ronnie raygun (Leaders who refuse to lead will be lead by the people)
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To: JohnBrowdie

And with the obvious problem of ObaMao losing control of the Senate this way, the members of the House will use that as cover for blocking the whole damn thing.


5 posted on 01/17/2010 4:54:25 PM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: JohnBrowdie

Not only that, but a Brown win will put the fear of God into the blue dogs, or at least enough of them (we don’t need many) to kill the effort.


6 posted on 01/17/2010 4:54:25 PM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Obey the law, or you'll go to prison and be raped.)
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To: JohnBrowdie
Pelosi very well could suck it up now just to get one step closer to full socialization.
7 posted on 01/17/2010 4:54:48 PM PST by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

It has to be a long day for Obama when very liberal Salon Magazine reports that Coakley had not warmed up the meager crowd for him.

President Obama speaks at a campaign stop for Democratic senate candidate ...
Salon -
The nominee herself had not yet ignited the crowd when the president appeared.


8 posted on 01/17/2010 4:58:40 PM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: tobyhill

The unions won’t allow it. No way they’ll pay that tax on their health plans.


9 posted on 01/17/2010 4:59:17 PM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Yup. If any Dems were paying attention today - they saw a small rally in Boston for Croak-ley and a big rally for Scott is Wooster.

If Obama tries to keep pushing this nightmare ObamaCare - he is going to get an even bigger backlash than Massachusetts.


10 posted on 01/17/2010 5:00:05 PM PST by Frantzie (TV - sending Americans towards Islamic serfdom - Cancel TV service NOW)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

It has to be a long day for Obama when very liberal Salon Magazine reports that Coakley had not warmed up the meager crowd for him.

President Obama speaks at a campaign stop for Democratic senate candidate ...
Salon -
The nominee herself had not yet ignited the crowd when the president appeared.

http://www.salon.com/news/obamas_first_year/?story=/opinion/walsh/politics/2010/01/17/obama_movement


11 posted on 01/17/2010 5:00:19 PM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: JohnBrowdie
It would be unconstitutional since money bills must originate in the House.
12 posted on 01/17/2010 5:06:09 PM PST by Perdogg ("Is that a bomb in your pants, or are you excited to come to America?")
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To: tobyhill

Yes, Martha, let’s discuss where the anger and recession came from.

Started with democrat congress.

Exacerbated under Democrat congress and Democrat president.

For those in the Martha Coakley campaign: (Rio Linda and Port St. Lucie to everyone else)

tr.v. ex·ac·er·bat·ed, ex·ac·er·bat·ing, ex·ac·er·bates
To increase the severity, violence, or bitterness of; aggravate: a speech that exacerbated racial tensions; a heavy rainfall that exacerbated the flood problems.


13 posted on 01/17/2010 5:08:53 PM PST by Christian4Bush (2010 is here. In 288 days, we Vote the B**tards Out. Then, we finish the job in 2012.)
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To: tobyhill

I guess that would mean that the Cornhusker Kickback would have to be adopted by the House.


14 posted on 01/17/2010 5:10:54 PM PST by SSS Two
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To: JohnBrowdie

Don’t bet on it. It is the Socialists last stand. A cornered Rat is the most dangerous. They will try.


15 posted on 01/17/2010 5:10:54 PM PST by screaminsunshine
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To: tobyhill
Pelosi demand the House pass the Senate Bill? Meaning the “Louisiana Purchase,” the “Cornhusker Kickback,” the "Pharma Fellatio," ye "Amish Opt Oute," etc, etc, etc, all stay in the final bill, but the Unions' "Cadillac Tax Exemption" stays out?

I don't think that's gonna fly.

16 posted on 01/17/2010 5:11:46 PM PST by Stultis (Democrats. Still devoted to the three S's: Slavery, Segregation and Socialism.)
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To: Perdogg
It would be unconstitutional since money bills must originate in the House.

TAX BILLS must originate in the House. HCR is primarily bad new public policy. It is more spending than taxing. To the extent that one would consider it a tax bill, it doesn't matter. The bill did originate in the House. The House went first on HCR over Thanksgiving weekend.

17 posted on 01/17/2010 5:14:00 PM PST by SSS Two
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To: SSS Two
Everything that got voted on by the Senate would become law, including all the bribes. The Rats will be put out of business for the next century if any part of this so-called health care bill passes.
18 posted on 01/17/2010 5:14:39 PM PST by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

It seems the world as DC knows it has collapsed around a central theme: Its all about O all the time, the country and people are only a distant secondary annoyance. In short DC has willingly disconnected itself from the rest of the country and is going it alone.


19 posted on 01/17/2010 5:24:27 PM PST by 556x45
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To: tobyhill

If they pass it this way, I would predict not a single Dem that votes for it will be re-elected in November.


20 posted on 01/17/2010 5:28:51 PM PST by excopconservative
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